• ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works
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        3 days ago

        So accurate, though I dare say they’re even more pathetic - "I was hateful and abusive to you, but you spoke up and demanded I stop, which hurt my feelings, that’s why I voted for Hitler. It’s your fault.”

        Because the only people drifting further in to bigotry “because” those they’re bigoted against stand up for themselves, were already bigots to begin with. They’re just critically aware (though they’ll never admit it) of just how much privilege they actually have, and find the idea of having that challenged, never mind being equal and equitable to everyone else, completely unacceptable and even repulsive, but mostly terrified (because the only way they can fathom it going is that they will be treated under feminism the same way they treat us under the patriarchy) and they will invest everything they have in to maintaining the oppressive structures that serve them.

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      Nope, I’m very lucid. If you haven’t seen people’s reaction to “raging feminism” then you haven’t been paying attention. To reiterate, i specifically said that the “doing nothing” side of the dial is wrong too

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        Is that reaction actually increasing the misogyny though? I kinda expect it’s just bringing out into the open what is already there tbh

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          It’s definitely causing more misogyny. When people feel like you’re attacking them, it makes them attack you back

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            4 days ago

            Instead of complaining that feminists speak out, why not call out the actual problem: the misogynists? Be a “staunch advocate” and have the conversations that women can’t.

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              Immediately jumping to a rape analogy isn’t fair or apt, you can always make someone else’s argument appear dumb when you jump to an EXTREME

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              “All men are fucking douchebags and should die” -> “if they already think I’m a douchebag and the other side will be nice to me…”

              Don’t get me wrong, I understand that that’s an extreme but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen either. I’m not saying I agree really with either side and “turning down the feminism” is a kinda weird thing to say to your student but I have heard multiple different times of someone who saw how much they seemed to be hated and drifted to the right as they were accepted there (even if for the wrong reasons).

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              Wow, perfect way to EXACTLY demonstrate my point. By totally and completely making an offensive bullshit false analogy about what I said, that makes me want to attack you back in response