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      I can think of very few examples where the paid version is better, usually the reason the masses use the paid version is billion dollar marketing campaigns and adopted standards.

      More relevant perhaps, corporations are not incentivized to make a good app they are incentivized to be just better than the free version so that enough people don’t switch that the free version becomes the default version, keeping open source code perpetually one step behind because they can always dump 10 billion dollars into improving a minor annoyance as long as it keeps their product the standard de facto product.

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        I like to point out Home Assistant, it’s FOSS and better than anything else. Nothing else comes close not even Google home and they are a trillion dollar company.

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              I do try to go with Matter/Thread as much as possible. I do have old, in-wall switches that are on Z-Wave.

              I recommend using bulbs where you want the option of colors, and switches where you don’t. To control the color bulbs from the wall, you need a scene controller, which is a bit expensive and I haven’t found a good one yet. It’s not as simple as a switch.

              I did recently pick up a Matter/Thread Reolink doorbell for $100. It was pretty easy to install, and works well with Home Assistant. The TV controls are just a Chromecast, but of course the dedicated remote works better. Still nice for turning the TV off an on.

              I also use an old phone as a wall panel, set up with Home Assistant app pinned and set to Kiosk mode. HA does often become unpinned, so it’s not perfect.

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                I’m just starting to get into Thread. Unfortunately for me, I’m militant to a fault about my stuff being really as Open Source as possible (and I’m also pretty cheap, NGL), so my “Thread Border Router” is a dev board and some instructions, not a finished product, LOL.

                (I haven’t set it up yet, so wish me luck. I also need to design and 3D print a case, etc…)

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                  I’m using a Skyconnect, which might be open? It’s made by the HA guys. (In addition to a Google hub v2.)

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    There is like no advertisement at all. I don’t know what to consume anymore, heck, who I am

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      By respecting my ownership and not making me jump through flaming hoops for compatibility with everything else, it’s already a billion times better!

      I can’t even tell you how absurdly mad I get when I run into an ‘anti-feature’ that’s literally only preventing me from doing something the company wants to keep as their own special power.

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    The profit motive is why they throw so much money at it. I like FOSS better too but these differences can’t easily be separated.

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    Saying millions of dollars like that’s a lot of money to spend developing an app. Meta has literally hundreds of devs just working on WhatsApp. You’ll burn through around a million dollars in one year with about six devs when you factor in all the costs.

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    corporations can create good applications and tooling, they also create toxic dark pattern applications

    open source devs can create air tight software or they can make some dingus word alternatives that just doesn’t work at all

    I love open source but there are certainly some programs out there (for free though)

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      It’s the dark patterns for me. I recently switched from Plex to Jellyfin for my media server and it was night and day. My server was front and center on the client with absolutely zero bs in Jellyfin, while in Plex it’s been buried and shuffled in with a mountain of garbage ad supported content I never wanted

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    I find the tiny amount of jank comforting

    It’s like a subtle reminder that you aren’t being exploited by a big corporation.

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        Corporate jank has a different flavour to open-source jank.

        Corporate jank is like *Download the adobe download update manager in order to download updates for your adobe update manager now free of charge! Just don’t forget to activate your adobe download update manager activation license in the adobe activation license activator software"

        Open-source jank is like Yeah, it’s broken unless you install this specific package or there are three and a half different states that the “brush” tool can have, and the “half” is what you want most of the time or these 5000 lines of logs are not important and can be ignored, except once in a blue moon where a really important critical notice is hidden somewhere in the middle or why are you using the official installer, nobody uses the official installer! Just get it from your package manager!

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        not just throw and error number at you and close

        Lol every Microsoft error I’ve seen in the last few years has been of the “Oops! Something went wrong!” variety. I would kill for a fucking error number.

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          Fucking Apple going down that route too.

          “<Your disc> can’t be ejected as it’s in use”

          It fucking ain’t. I’ve force quit all the fucking apps you shithead. The only way to safely eject is to shut down.

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            My macbook is circa 2012 and many years ago my CD drive just completely vanished from Finder. No indication that it exists anywhere, so no hope of ejecting the old CD that’s stuck in there now, and of course I can’t stick a fresh CD in. My kingdom for a fucking physical eject button.

            I remember trying to use a Mac back in the early '90s. There was no disk eject button and the power button was this big knob sitting right next to the disk drive exactly where a rational person would expect there to be an eject button, so I kept accidentally powering off the computer whenever I wanted to eject a disk. Took me some time to accept the incredibly intuitive dragging the drive icon onto the fucking trash can to eject.

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          Not like it matters, even when google finds a promising link, Microsoft has invariably moved or deleted the article, but instead of just telling you it’s gone, you get the windows 11 landing page…

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    I really try to like these Apps.

    But the OpenStreetMap’s App sucks. I can’t do a U-Turn on the Autobahn. And no, I won’t break through a closed Exit. Is there any way to make it that it find a new alternative route when I “miss” or simply can’t take the Exit?

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      I prefer OSMand over Organic Maps, because it has much more features, just the map renderer isn’t as pretty.

      But I mostly use it for pedestrian and bike navigation. But I think car navigation works very well as well.

      Also, if the map data isn’t so great in your region, you can try playing StreetComplete and help improve it yourself.

      OSM is the Wikipedia of map data, and offers likely the most detailed cards that we have.

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        For me the UI was just almost unusable. While the features are very nice and mostly unmatched, there is just no way to find them. Also it really killed the battery of my phone. While hiking it was fine, but for real time turn by turn navigations my phone died in about 2h compared to 4 or so on other apps

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          Well, in that way it is a classic open source software, very powerful but a bit difficult to use.

          I rather have features I need hidden behind a cryptic interface, then not have them.

          I also normally carry around a power bank, and sometimes have to recharge my phone at lunch, when using it intensively. That seems just normal to me at this point.

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            Yeah, if you need those features. In my experience it’s often features only a very small fraction of people need that are cluttering the UI and make it impossible to find the features I actually need.

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    The all-star team works to develop software that works perfectly and will supplant all open source competition. Once they become dominant they can switch focus to monetizing literally every aspect of its functions and through enshitification destroy everything that made it great. But hey, what are ya gonna do?

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    That’s because the “all star team of designers and engineers” spent 80% of their time in meetings to keep management up to date with the progress of the project, listen to yet another wild ass idea from marketing and because they adopted a new and fashionable Software Development Processes without understanding the principles behind it so have a daily 1h standup.

    • FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world
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      Scrum master: alarm goes off oh… well, guys, this stand up’s been going so long our next one started so let’s just slide on into it…

      Senior Dev: dies

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    It’s a double-edged sword. The ease-of-use benefits of centralization outweigh the independence of open-source for most people. Without leadership or centralization of open-source, there will always be too many distros to choose from. Obviously, centralization of open-source software is self-negating, and not a realistic idea.

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      The ease-of-use benefits of centralization outweigh the independence of open-source for most people.

      Most advanced software has a learning curve. People who have invested a bunch of time and energy learning Walled Garden OS will find other Walled Garden apps easier to use than folks who grew up in the open-source wilds.

      That is a big reason why big OS companies (Microsoft most notoriously) practically give their software away to college kids and junior developers. Gates was even quoted saying something to the effect of “I’d prefer software pirates steal Microsoft Windows today than use a competitor tomorrow”

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      Blender Foundation I think has perfectly balanced the quality that comes from a centrally managed project with the community and adaptability of its open source nature and the support of the community.

      They have a managed hub where a lot of fantastic community plug-ins reside but just as many high quality plug-ins are hosted elsewhere. They also do their best to bring in exceptional talent from the community officially into the Foundation like the hiring of the old Animation Nodes plug-in creator to work on Grometry Nodes and revamp all the other node based workflows in Blender.

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          Blender also has a huge benefit of a very active group of donors and a lot of support from the Netherlands government. Major industry organizations like Ubisoft and Epic Games have made significant monetary contributions in recent years to the Blender Foundation because they’re more closely integrating Blender into their creative and technical pipelines

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              Possibly, I know that in the current state kf the industry, Autodesk and Maxon in the last 5-10 years have gotten exceptionally stagnant in the development of truly new game changing stuff and are now looking at Blender and copying what is going on there. Blender really is leading the way with new tech and new tools that others are copying them instead of the other way around. And Blender has been doing a lot to make sure it can fit into basically any pipeline.

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                Amd it being OS makes it impossible to be stagnant. Just merge a new PR if someone was bored and chose to develop a new feature.
                Win-Win for community and developers. thumbs-up

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    Honestly many times it’s better. Shoutout VLC, KDE, Linux, qBittorrent, Librewolf, Handbrake, Tenacity, CHIRP, Flipper Zero, and too many more to mention by name.

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    Wtf are you guys talking about, like desktop apps are the end all be all of computing. 98 percent of codebases contain open source. There’s like 5000 open source libraries in your iphone. For most things there just are no proprietary alternatives. It is the state of the art, ubiquitous in everything from medical equipment to satellites and TVs. The digital economy runs open source, with an estimated worth of 8.8 trillion dollars.

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      Open source CAD software is basically useless. As someone who has tried every few years to use open source alternatives for personal projects, I always end up paying for an AutoCAD or Fusion 360 license.

      My professional background has always been higher end software like Siemens NX, Solidworks, Inventor, & AutoCAD.

      LibreCAD is the closest I ever got to something that seemed useful for 2D. I hate FreeCAD, QCAD, BRL-CAD, etc. Many open source projects waste so much time to do simple tasks and buck standard methodologies for their own spin on how they think you should design.

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        Opensource works best when there’s demand and a lot of people mostly developers want that software. For CAD it’s just that not much people need it and those who need it are rarely also developers.

    • (Android) Calendars.

      fossify calendar is somewhat great, but it doesn’t have support for tasks (except in its own calendars that can’t be synced)

      And don’t get me started on CalDav and trying to selfhost it. Baikal, Radicale.

      Actually I think CalDav is the source of all of our problems. At least everyone I know won’t touch it with a 2-meter pole.

      And the reason why proprietary Calendars are so much better.

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        From your post I’m not 100% sure what your problem is, but if it is synchronisation with the host you can try DAVx5 for that. It’s also on the Play Store but costs money there, on F-Droid it’s free. It’s able to synch Nextcloud tasks.