• jonne@infosec.pub
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    The ones leaving are the best educated ones. It’s basically a brain drain, similar to what happens to a lot of developing countries. Once the process starts, it’s hard to reverse because it’s a self reinforcing cycle.

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      The US might be a worse place for lower skilled jobs due to lack of public health and low minimum wage but at the other end of the spectrum most people would be giving up a lot of opportunities and income to move to countries like Australia or NZ. Our economies are comparatively small, undiversified and lacking investment.

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        He’s planning to fire a ton of government employees unless they bend the knee, and if he starts messing with universities a bunch of scientists would be pressured to say the ‘right’ things as well. If that happens, those people would leave. Plus, in those other countries, health care isn’t tied to your employment.

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          As long as the US has wealthy safe haven states they are going to be a more attractive destination for people with high demand, high income jobs. As long as those safe havens and state rights exist I don’t think US citizens are going to qualify for entry as refugees for some time. In the unlikely event the law and society breaks down completely people will need to get in line with all the millions fleeing war and genocide. Those that get in through skilled immigration will need to carefully weigh up the significant financial and career consequences.

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          Germany was the worldwide leader in science before the Nazis. We may see a shift to Europe or China if science is actively suppressed in the USA.

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          Other countries have villages being firebombed and families being slaughtered. I am not uncaring but disenfranchised American’s are way at the back of the queue. The only political parties that are going to preference US political refugees over genuine humanitarian refugees are going to have exactly the sort of bigoted attitudes you are seeking to avoid. Fix your own mess people. Get on a bus, travel to a red state and actually talk to people. You keep bashing them over the head about them being stupid bigots but then you refuse to engage with them. That clearly isn’t working.

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            Countries have different immigration streams, and skilled people that have matching language skills are put way in front of refugees in every country. Countries like Australia and New Zealand will be jumping at the chance to get scientists and health care professionals from the US. They’re already picking off everyone they can find in the UK.

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      Its a concern in the south east Atlantic area as well. I remember reading concerns about it in the paper when I worked there for a bit