This is not dystopian at all, is it? Humans sleeping in pods. I guess it beats homelessness but this seems like a fail on epical levels (unless profits for these pod companies are what we care about).

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    I dunno. These kinds of solutions might seem weird to someone used to having an entire apartment, but these kinds of living spaces are common in places like Japan.

    And $700 is a lot to someone living in a LCoL area, but given that San Fran is a HCoL area, probably reasonably priced in that relative context.

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      I’m not picking on you, but the comparison to Japan when I read about things like this makes me very uncomfortable. I don’t care that some people in Japan are comfortable staying in these things; I never want someone thinking this is acceptable for me to stay in. I don’t want living in a box this small to be socially acceptable. This is being pushed on people as the new normal instead of a motel or possibly an apartment and it feels dystopian. My standards for me and everyone else are higher than this.

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        As I commented further down, I don’t know if I would consider this an overall good thing. Is it better than being homeless? Yes. Is it better than a motel? Probably also yes.

        Is it a good long-term solution? I don’t know that I can say either way, honestly. It doesn’t seem like a good long-term solution, but I have a lot of privilege, and perhaps my paradigm is biased.

        And if something like this allows somebody to get on their feet, then maybe it’s bad long-term but good in the short-term. I brought up Japan not to say, “This works, because look at Japan,” but to point out that the “Western Ideal” isn’t the only solution, and we shouldn’t let cultural bias prevent consideration of other options or ideas.

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      At best this a solution for homelessness… temporary too

      What fucking adult wants to live like this and why is the state and “capitalism” not solving the housing issue?

      Asking for a friend

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        What fucking adult wants to live like this

        I dunno. I would, if I had few possessions. Is it a lot? No idea. Most Americans dream of a big house, but some downgrade to vans or tiny homes with limited space like this.

        why is the state and “capitalism” not solving the housing issue?

        State: because it’s complicated and would likely involve some ugly, legal fights, even if it’s the right thing to do.

        Capitalism: because charity is antithetical to capitalism.

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          but some downgrade to vans or tiny homes with limited space like this.

          Yeah there was a youtube fad for that but did not it got sort of debunked, ie people living in cars vast majority of the time doing it as result of bad economic conditions…

          I think tiny house are a bit different but they are hardly a mass market solution. Although they could be eradicate homelessness decently well with proper investment from state and taxation of the capitalist pig.

          I think this option is similar in that yes it is a solution for some housing issue but this is not really something that is good nor should we aspire to but I guess this is the best San Fransisco market can offer its residents.

          People should just leave, that’s the really the only way to deal with a shiti merchant.

          I think it is already net outflow cities along with New York but prices in NYC are not dropping but going up. in SF prices are down but 10% down on 1.5 million home is still fucking idiotic priced lol

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            People should just leave, that’s the really the only way to deal with a shiti merchant.

            If you have the means to leave. The idea that anyone can “just leave” speaks to a level of privilege I’m not sure you’re aware you have (and I don’t mean that as a jab at you). Moving is costly, even if you’re talking about doing it 100% yourself, whether that means money, sweat, or opportunity costs.

            Do I think this merchant is capitalizing on the poor? Yes. Is this better than being homeless? Yes. Even if this is temporary and allows you to get on your feet, the end result is that you’ll have gotten on your feet.

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              I understand that majority of people can’t/won’t due to family and economics.

              But a some point economics force it anyway, if you can’t afford the rent, you can’t afford the rent. It is forced displacement really but we don’t use such language in this here country.

              Either way, market is working this issue out with net outflow and whatever this “solution” is.

              But practically neither is a solution to anything but this is how society works now. Either you can afford corpo fuax luxury place in big city with a “good” job or fuck you, die.

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                I don’t see it as a solution, and I think that’s why you’re looking at it pessimistically while I have a slightly more neutral outlook. This company isn’t trying to solve homelessness, they’re trying to capitalize upon it.

                It’s better than being homeless, but I dunno if it’s a good solution; I also recognize that I’m not smart enough to figure out how to improve upon an idea like this.

                I’ll leave that to the smarties elsewhere.

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        What fucking adult wants to live like this

        I see a lot of people on Lemmy frequently talking about high density housing like this as if it’s the best thing ever.

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          No, people are talking about apartments and multi family homes, not this.

          Single family detached housing sprawl is bad for many reasons, which I won’t bring up here but one reason is access to services.

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            This is the same thing as an apartment.

            Get a clue. This is the high density living you’re asking for.

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              No? This is a “pod”.

              Apartments at minimum have a floor.

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        This is how I feel also. This is life for a person? I think it makes zero sense that anyone is fine with this being their life…