• Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com
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      24 days ago

      You’re not too wrong.

      But despite all of the inexcusable ethnic cleansing shit of the PRC they have drastically raised the standards of living of the poorest.

      You’d be hard pressed to find anyone (who isn’t a member of a persecuted minority or political dissident) in conditions as bad as a Brazilian favella in the PRC. Let alone a favellasworth of them.

      (And to preempt, bright spots of favella culture such as community centres, art, and people succeding are despite the conditions (even if in response to them), not a sign that they’re “good actually”.)

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        24 days ago

        Not here to discredit the social improvements in China of the past 50 years, but there are still places in the countryside that are comparable to favelas.

        But they are disappearing, favelas are not.

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          23 days ago

          You’re absolutely correct.
          I’d also add that while they exist, it is also with fewer food and water poverty/access issues compared to favelas since they’re rural rather than urban spaces.

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          23 days ago

          I was talking about the other scenario of the the image. I know it’s possible. But if it’s not like that, i don’t want only a few leeching off the rest like how it is now. I hate people that sick rich people’s balls even when they themselves are poor.

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        23 days ago

        While communism is often misused as a tool by authoritarians who fake being communist to implement their corruption, I think by its very nature it invites these issues. I love the ideals, don’t get me wrong, but it needs an answer for enforcement. The only one I’ve seen-- community enforcement of expectations-- only works if everyone in the system is 100% on board. Let me know what you think if you’d like, I admittedly don’t know a lot about communism.

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          23 days ago

          I agree with you. Its a great system if everyone knows everyone else. On a large scale, human nature means pure communism will always fail.