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Oh you sweet summer child of a blog poster. The aliens could make us live like say, how things are going for the Ethiopians, Syrians, Congolese, Lebanese, Palestineans, Yemeni, Russians etc.
Or like people have lived through most of history. Especially as a someone who presents female, that seems especially non ideal.
Mother effing prime directive!
Wouldn’t they be allowed to make contact once the civilization reaches out to space? Or was that just in the Orville?
They were allowed to make contact once the civilization achieved warp drive in some form. With warp drive, the civilization would run into other space faring civilizations eventually. So an attempt was made to make that first meeting, peaceful.
Not give US healthcare again.
There, I fixed it.
Aliens probably watch earth like a trashy reality show. Just full cringe all the time
Wait… “The” ufo sightings? Is this person using language incorrectly, or have i been living under a rock.
There was a bunch of drama in UFO communities a couple of years back where Congress was seemingly taking the possibility seriously but it faded away.
I’m pretty bummed, honestly, we need an uplift bad.
Perhaps we were invaded long ago.
It would explain a whole lot of inhuman behavior humanity has seemed to be engaging in.
I think along these lines when someone talks about the dangers of agi suggesting a terminator type thing.
The rise of the robots isn’t what most ‘AI doomers’ are worried about. What a truly malicious AGI could do would be along the lines of simulating your consciousness and placing you in eternal simulated hell. However, the more realistic fear is that it might treat us the way we treat ants. We have nothing against them, but we’ll wipe out a colony without a second thought if we need to build a house there.
Yeah this is still along the lines of im not worried about it. Im worried about non general ai being programmed for the service of humans to gain advantage over others.
Enslaves us and treat us like property? Oh how original
Kidnap me, take me to an undisclosed secret location, probe my bodily orifices, water board me, hold me for several days or weeks and them dump my naked self back in some random location?
If I can put it in as medical leave, I’m in.
This is pretty mich the plot of Three Body Problem.
Not in the books, it isn’t.
Well, there’s at least one character and organization that thinks the aliens couldn’t do any worse then what humans have already done.
It’s really not even close…
A civilization capable of interstellar imperialism* would be focused on long-term exploitation of less primitive societies, so they would probably manage us better than the current elites do. A more educated, healthy worker is simply more productive than the alternative, especially in the long term.
- unless it is some kind of swarm of space locusts that just devour everything in their path.
I would find it more likely that they wipe us out to make way for colonizers of their own. They probably have no use for us, save maybe a couple to keep on display in a captive breeding program. They would likely have the technology to perform any work we could, but better and faster.
A civilisation that can travel between stars will probably see us as we see bugs. If we are annoying they destroy us, if we don’t bother them, they won’t care about us. We think we have some merit and knowledge and that we are special to be interesting to higher species, how often do you wish to uplift, enslave or destroy ants?
Don’t think about how the average person acts towards insects, think about how a farmer does. Plow the field, plant crops, fertilize, spray pesticides.
An alien civilization far in advance of our own which has travelled the stars and colonized millions of planets would just scour all life from the planet (while perhaps sucking up the genetic information into a database) and then reform the biosphere to suit their own needs, siphoning up all the mineral and energy resources they need as well.
Fair point. But that’s assuming they are like us. And with how different lifeforms are on Earth we can assume that the alien species are completely different from us both physically and psychologically.
Though the farther we go the more we don’t want to kill other biological life that doesn’t bother us. Partly because we are kind, more so because we don’t need to and other life is fun.
I don’t think it matters much what we want, it’s what we do that counts. What are humans doing? We’re causing a mass-extinction event that puts us in the same camp as Cyanobacteria, the ice ages, the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs, etc.
I know aliens haven’t found this planet because Musk is still alive, and he’s a threat to their goals.
Boy, somebody hasn’t learned about colonisation history!
Targeting primitives is about right, though!
Or they would manage us to their own desires. I wouldn’t say imperialism of conquered peoples went well for people on Earth.
Hell, there are several noted cases of deindustrialization, like the British Raj in India, where the imperial power pushed a civilization back into resource extraction. Why would an alien civilization colonize us for anything other than natural resources?
And there are several examples where humans weren’t treated well in a resource extraction economy. Sugarcane plantations in the Caribbean were where slaves went to die.
Eh, natural resources are far easier to extract from asteroids and moons than to haul out the gravity well of the biggest rocky planet in the area. And they wouldn’t have to mess with the nasty apes for any of them.
Escaping the gravity well is difficult for us. They can travel who knows how far or how fast. The gravity might be of little importance to them.
The only interesting thing on earth is life itself, as well as intelligent life and its culture. Literally everything else can be found everywhere else
Resource extraction includes farming.
Why would they farm on alien soil? That sounds like a terrible idea. Just make space bases dedicated for farming
No, they’d just use earth for scientific reasons, exploring and cataloguing our life. And perhaps maybe for artistic/cultural reasons, enrichment basically
Why would an alien civilization colonize us for anything other than natural resources?
Space is full of mineral resources, going to a random planet with a relatively high gravity well just for some rocks would be counter productive. And an advanced civilization would probably use a lot of automation for resource extraction.
And there are several examples where humans weren’t treated well in a resource extraction economy. Sugarcane plantations in the Caribbean were where slaves went to die.
That part is true. But the question is what could the aliens get from us that couldn’t be made for cheaper closer to their planet?
It doesn’t have to be mineral wealth. It could be biological in nature, like cash crop farming.
Ass
smaller planets tend to lose their water and hydrogen.
Don’t forget the anal probing they’ve been known to dabble in
This is why we vote for Kang.
There’s always the possibility that they’ll improve the status quo.
why would they bother? We’d eventually bite the hand that feeds us. Its 100% inevitable.
Please send otherworldly crop rotation and irrigation strategies we don’t wanna starve again like the potato blight
OOP has clearly never played “Stellaris”.
Don’t forget the universal truth that it can always get worse.
You mean will
