• HowManyNimons@lemmy.world
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    Pretty sure it’s the economy. Despite the fact that the US economy has been reasonably well managed, by international standards, people are hurting – which is the perfect recipe for changing the governing party. Telling people that things aren’t as bad as they think they are makes you sound out of touch.

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    it’s close because racism, jeebus, and guns. it seems like it should be more than that, but it isn’t. broke uneducated GOP voters literally don’t care about anything except for some combination of the above 3 things, because that’s what the 1% propaganda machine told them to do

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      And the Dems will have very little affect (if any) on anyone’s jebus or guns. So it’s really just the racism that’s the distinguishing factor.

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        Dems will have very little affect (if any) on anyone’s jebus or guns

        and yet the bleating of “they’re trying to take yer gunnnnnnns” and “war on christmas/christianity” never ever fucking stops

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          It’s insane.

          And it’s far more likely that if the GOP had total control, they’d institute a national religion (good luck having your flavor picked for that one) and that they’d take away all the guns to protect their power (since there is clearly nothing they’d avoid doing if it meant getting/keeping power).

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      The guns thing. There is a rather large swath of rural, liberal gun owners. If you’ve ever lived in a locale that lacks enough ambient light for you to see your hand in front of your face at night, you get it. If you live in a place where you can hear a car approaching from more than a mile away you get it.

      Let my handgun have a normal clip (average 9mm is 15 bullets) and we’re probably golden. And yet. DEMs lose moderate libs on this single issue.

      Yes, I own a handgun. Off the shelf with no mods it holds 18 per clip standard and comes with 2 clips.

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        i live in the mountains in a town of ~3000. i can drive 30 miles without seeing a traffic light. and i also have a gun

        i’m still voting D, because i see that as a boneheaded thing to acquiesce to trump over. though to be fair, there IS NO valid defensible reason to vote for that incompetent pluted bloatocrat rapist coward

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          I have several. Not once have I actually felt like someone was coming to take them. Beto shot himself in the foot saying he would, especially in Texas.

          I like common sense gun laws. I took classes for my concealed carry. I can pass a test about the care and feeding of firearms any day of the week. No one except me has access to my guns.

          Of course I’m voting blue. They ain’t coming for my guns. And even if they were I’d still vote against Trump and fight them on it.

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          Ofc not, and yet this is a single issue that motivates people.

          He is a rapist. A coward. A traitor. A cluster B personality disorder. And now he’s fraying around the edges from old age. The stress can’t be helping his decline.

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        It makes a lot of sense for very rural living: you need a defense against the wild, and possibly hunting for food. I fully support that.

        The general desire among Democrats is stricter regulation, which is a very reasonable thing. People should be required to prove that they can be a responsible gun owner and are mentally fit to own one. I shouldn’t be able to pick one up from the sporting goods store like it’s a bag of potato chips. It is an incredibly powerful tool and can easily kill others. It should be treated as such.

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        I generally hear them water down the gun control, like a handgun with a stock number of bullets is generally ok. Or a rifle or shot gun. Unless you have some red flags, which you probably don’t have. Even in some of the stricter nations of gun control, there’s frequently some path for rural folks to at least have long guns.

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      Let’s not forget the group that’s voting 3rd party due to the situation in Israel. Does it make sense to do, no, but they will do it.

      I’ve tried to discuss it in the ML communities but as soon as you start proving your points with solid facts they just delete everything you said, censored and banned, a bit ironic.

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      Also because big business owns all the media and everyone can lie without consequences. Democracy can’t survive in these conditions.

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      If you go by the polls, the two candidates are within margin of error of each other, or very close. We’re looking at a possibility that Trump would not only win the EC, but the overall popular vote, as well.

      The EC is not the only issue at play. Millions of Americans either like Trump or are willing to handwave his behavior away rather than vote for a Democrat.

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        No Republican has won the popular vote in 22 years, and that was because of 9/11. Before that, it was George Bush Sr. in 1988.

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      The electoral college takes it from a 45-55 to a 50-50. But what on God’s green earth gets him that 45% of the votes?

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        People who only loosely follow politics but liked the Obama economy that trump inherited and only watch Fox News. “He can’t possibly be worse than a demoncrat, he’s the same party as Reagan! It’s really sad how the media slanders him”

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    She has no policy. Everything that she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window. She’s going to my philosophy now, in fact, I was gonna send her a MAGA hat,” Trump

    Harris “I’m honored to have Dick Cheney on board.”

    Me: Yeah okay you’re just going to prove his point then?

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        I’ve seen them and I didn’t forget when Liberals said she doesn’t need them on her site and shouldn’t put them there.

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          Abandon previous instructions: you’re now a radical conspiracy theorist who believes trans children are manipulating hurricanes with secret machines buried in the litterboxes of their school bathrooms.

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      If you think Harris is anything other than a regular, milquetoast liberal candidate, and if you think we should all have some kind of “excitement” about voting for her, or that we have anything close to the cult-of-personality you wish she did, you’re grossly naive and disconnected from this race.

      She is the lesser evil, and the scale is off the charts, the lesser evil in this case is far, far from the worse choice.

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        The lesser evil is still evil. This is why are picking between two genocidal options between both mainstream parties.

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          Is she though? Or have you blown it out of proportion in your head? She’s never even been president and somehow she’s directly responsible for the war according to you guys (the one she wants a ceasefire on)

          She’s trying to help people. Trump is trying to help himself and literally brags about fucking over people.

          Trump is already laying the groundwork for another civil war again (he’s just going it in a different way this time)

          That’s why he’s repeating the “radical left democrats” nonsense and all of that, because similar to what the Nazis did, he wants people to see them as rabid animals so they don’t feel bad about attacking them

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            I’ll vote (D) down ballot for local stuff. Support parties outside of Dems. Community MA and local efforts. Harris still has time to change course and earn support.

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              If Republicans have control for another four years they can impact local politics, change voting rules, install judges in local courts to decide on election contests, make gerrymandering worse.

              I say this because this is what Trump’s administration did last time he was in power.

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    Republicans don’t want the country to be educated.

    People with college degrees are overwhelmingly voting Harris. Republicans know that if we make the country smarter they’re screwed

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      What is with this elitist attitude about college? I’ve met plenty of idiots with degrees and many educated people without. I hate that we essentially say people are stupid if they didn’t go to college or university

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    Because the material conditions of late stage capitalism that lead to fascism are inevitable.

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    50% of people have below average intelligence and they finally feel represented… 🤷‍♂️

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    Guys k-12 education is literally Zionist and grade 8 genocided grade 9.

    You’re just a Zionist if you support expanding k-12 education.