No, you’re getting downvoted because there is no such thing as “genetically fat”. Metabolic disorders are a different beast, but even those can be controlled by diet. The psychological tradeoffs of restrictive diets make them a difficult choice for many people who prefer a pharmaceutical route instead. At the fringe people will deny there is a “lifestyle” intervention option at all.
If your genetics give you an abnormally slow metabolism, this will result in you gaining weight based off calories that a normal person would eat to maintain a healthy weight. It’s hard enough for most people with normal metabolisms to eat a healthy diet so saying “well those people can just control it with diet” is grossly optimistic and again puts the “blame” on these people with metabolic disorders for not eating well enough.
You did mention though that those people may go the pharmaceutical route, however that may not be available to a lot of people due to lack of health insurance, lack of knowledge, etc.
So to come full circle, yes, some people are fat because of genetics.
To be fair, this is a very small subset of people we’re talking about.
Actually they are. Health problems are no joke. I knew a guy at a military-adjacent youth group. Dude’s nickname was Garcia. He had health issues that made him look basically like a ball. But he worked out, he was active and ate well - meaning he was in better shape than me. Sometimes you just lose the genetic lottery.
I’m curious if you know anything more about this condition so I can learn about it. If I’m understanding right, it made him seem fat but it wasn’t fat, right? Otherwise it seems to break my understating that it’s physically impossible to not overeat and yet still get fat
No, he was fat. He probably was overeating for his metabolism, but the issue was he had a really really slow one. I for instance in my youth days could devour two huge burgers, same as a coworker that was 30cm higher than me and extremely muscular, but I was a stick cause my metabolism was fast and with a little bit of excercise (rollerblading to work, 2km one way each day) I kept fit. When hormonal issues pop up you can put on weight incredibly fast. Google hypothyroidism for instance.
Under the fat, you could be extremely fit - for example sumo wrestlers are in the best form of their lives, despite the excessive weight. Sometimes you are just fucked no matter what you do.
Nobody says you can’t be fit under the fat, but fat people are overeating - period. The fat itself is a problem, it releases harmful hormones and impedes functionality of the organs it surrounds, not to mention the issues for circulation.
Yeah, okay, whatever you say. I have just given valid health reasons why people get fat and you decide that “fat equals bad” and if someone wanted to they’d lose it. Not how it works when you’re sick.
My comment about genetic disorders was downvoted. People here must hate fat people so much that they cannot accept that a small fraction of fat people have genetic disorders and are not fat due to any fault of their own. But hey, fuck em, amirite?
Why do you care about downvotes, they are imaginary points from people you never met and most likely won’t ever talk to since 95% of people are lurkers
Very true, but it still sets the tone for the community and the platform as a whole. If factual information on Lemmy is always downvoted then it makes Lemmy look like a misinformation engine, no better than the other bullshit platforms that have gone to shit. Lemmy is a platform that is trying to grow. Why would people join it if it comes off as toxic?
Some people are genetically fat though, or have metabolic disorders. Just keep that in mind.
No, you’re getting downvoted because there is no such thing as “genetically fat”. Metabolic disorders are a different beast, but even those can be controlled by diet. The psychological tradeoffs of restrictive diets make them a difficult choice for many people who prefer a pharmaceutical route instead. At the fringe people will deny there is a “lifestyle” intervention option at all.
Brotha waattttt?
If your genetics give you an abnormally slow metabolism, this will result in you gaining weight based off calories that a normal person would eat to maintain a healthy weight. It’s hard enough for most people with normal metabolisms to eat a healthy diet so saying “well those people can just control it with diet” is grossly optimistic and again puts the “blame” on these people with metabolic disorders for not eating well enough.
You did mention though that those people may go the pharmaceutical route, however that may not be available to a lot of people due to lack of health insurance, lack of knowledge, etc.
So to come full circle, yes, some people are fat because of genetics.
To be fair, this is a very small subset of people we’re talking about.
Some people, maybe. 122 million people just in the US, maybe not
Nobody’s genetically landwhale or ham planet. We’re taking people who need landscape tv coverage, not a few pounds extra.
You are factually wrong sir. I suggest you do some research and reconsider.
Actually they are. Health problems are no joke. I knew a guy at a military-adjacent youth group. Dude’s nickname was Garcia. He had health issues that made him look basically like a ball. But he worked out, he was active and ate well - meaning he was in better shape than me. Sometimes you just lose the genetic lottery.
I’m curious if you know anything more about this condition so I can learn about it. If I’m understanding right, it made him seem fat but it wasn’t fat, right? Otherwise it seems to break my understating that it’s physically impossible to not overeat and yet still get fat
No, he was fat. He probably was overeating for his metabolism, but the issue was he had a really really slow one. I for instance in my youth days could devour two huge burgers, same as a coworker that was 30cm higher than me and extremely muscular, but I was a stick cause my metabolism was fast and with a little bit of excercise (rollerblading to work, 2km one way each day) I kept fit. When hormonal issues pop up you can put on weight incredibly fast. Google hypothyroidism for instance.
Under the fat, you could be extremely fit - for example sumo wrestlers are in the best form of their lives, despite the excessive weight. Sometimes you are just fucked no matter what you do.
Nobody says you can’t be fit under the fat, but fat people are overeating - period. The fat itself is a problem, it releases harmful hormones and impedes functionality of the organs it surrounds, not to mention the issues for circulation.
Yeah, okay, whatever you say. I have just given valid health reasons why people get fat and you decide that “fat equals bad” and if someone wanted to they’d lose it. Not how it works when you’re sick.
My comment about genetic disorders was downvoted. People here must hate fat people so much that they cannot accept that a small fraction of fat people have genetic disorders and are not fat due to any fault of their own. But hey, fuck em, amirite?
Why do you care about downvotes, they are imaginary points from people you never met and most likely won’t ever talk to since 95% of people are lurkers
Very true, but it still sets the tone for the community and the platform as a whole. If factual information on Lemmy is always downvoted then it makes Lemmy look like a misinformation engine, no better than the other bullshit platforms that have gone to shit. Lemmy is a platform that is trying to grow. Why would people join it if it comes off as toxic?
Very, very few. Far fewer than the 40% of Americans that’re obese.
Ok. My point was just that these people exist. I made no claim about the frequency of occurrence.
You are nearly there… If 40% of any group are anything, that is not an individual problem, it’s a systemic issue.