• UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    It’s not about stopping climate change anymore. That ship has sailed and sunk.

    Now its about surviving long enough to witness very bad things happening to very bad people.

    • Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      1 month ago

      There is still time to change course, however carbon sequestration is becoming a more important part of climate action. Doomerism just acts as an excuse to not take action.

    • I Cast Fist@programming.dev
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      1 month ago

      witness very bad things happening to very bad people.

      Yeah, not gonna happen in this life. Karma is a happy accident, not a rule

    • fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      I honestly hate this rhetoric (nothing personal). Thing is, it gets worse and worse, the less we do, it’s not binary, and while the planet will not be able to support close as many people as of now, humanity will survive. But it’s very dependent on the actions we do now, how many will…

      • BobTheDestroyer@lemm.ee
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        1 month ago

        Whether humanity will survive really is an open question. Despite all the rhetoric and protests and promises the annual CO2 emissions have continued to increase steadily. It’s wishful thinking to imagine that we are going to do anything about this before the consequences of our choices force our collective hand. Any report or scientific paper that includes a phrase like ‘there is still time’ is just not accepting the reality of the situation. A year ago James Hansen published Global Warming in the Pipeline where he wrote “Equilibrium global warming for today’s GHG amount is 10°C”. A 4–7 degree rise over 5000 years ended the last ice age, Ocean levels rose 400 feet. A 10 degree rise in a century or so would be way too fast for most species to adapt. It would inundate the majority of our most populated cities. I could go on, but I get depressed writing about this.

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      1 month ago

      If anything, society collapses and the very wealthy carve out fiefdoms for themselves and re-create medieval feudalism. They tell people they have a God-ordained to rule over the “small folk” and they continue on living like kings, albeit in a post-apocalyptic setting.