• cabbage@piefed.social
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    I feel like they might have been wise to wait for a less fucked up SCOTUS before taking this before it.

    It’s not a bad idea, as it’s something that needs doing but it’s unlikely to be passed as a federal law, and they’re kind of right that it is unconstitutional.

    But this is bad timing.

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      1 month ago

      They didn’t lose their case in front of SCOTUS. SCOTUS just decided not to hear the case so the lower court’s ruling stood in that lower jurisdiction.

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        Shoot - I just read the article and saw the related links, but it didn’t occur to me that it’s completely out of date.

        Did they ever make it to the SCOTUS? I guess not?

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          https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-supreme-court-refuses-free-144949699.html

          Unfortunately, though the problem has gotten much worse in recent years, the theocratic leanings of the Supreme Court has been an issue for decades now.

          The argument that this is gender discrimination seems obviously true to me so it’s shocking to me that we’re still living in a society where this type of government violence is still widely accepted. I just have to hope that we’ll eventually evolve beyond this type of Puritanism.

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            Thanks, I had completely missed that ruling. Of course four years ago would not have been any better than today - it’s the same SCOTUS.

            Hopefully four years from now the situation will look different.

            I still think this is a great possibility for the judiciary to step up, as I doubt federal legislators are going to touch this issue, and it seems pretty fundamental to me. Seems like it’s not the most welcome discussion in this thread though!

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              Good point, I think of the change in court composition as a very recent thing but time flies. It has been a few years at this point.

              I hope you’re right that the lower courts will make more similar rulings but I suspect the Supreme Court might overturn it if they went too far. We’re just lucky Fort Collins ran out of money here.

              Unfortunately, the court’s composition could take decades to change. It’s a big problem with no easy solution.

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                Yeah, it’s impossible to tell. But time flies - with four new years a lot could happen. :)

                (Or it could be reformed. One could dream)

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                  Unfortunately I don’t see any of the proposed reforms measurably improving things while the right has an equal or greater grip on power. Any reforms that are easily implemented are easily neutralized or turned against the left when republicans return to power. Which, in the current political system, is an inevitability.

                  More radical reforms could solve the problem but would require much greater political power. In my opinion this can only be achieved by forming a mass movement that completely overpowers the right’s institutional advantages. Whether this can or will happen remains to be seen but it won’t be easy.