It’s also funny that rather than removing all of my post, they just decided to remove all those I referenced, meaning whoever they were they cared more about making the conversation unintelligible and its framing so that people could just fill in the gaps just based on the downvotes and the accusations.

Like I said to some people and now extend to the mod,

I love how people like you are the flip side equal of Trump people warping reality to shit on it. Same bullshit, both sides aren’t equal but people like you certainly resemble them closer.

ITT, people who couldn’t comprehend cult psychology (and given the inherent Stanford prison experiment abuse within it, any psychology) or even the inevitable conclusion of what they are claiming and accuse me for being ignorant of what I’m literally alluding to in the first comment.

Even supposing that there was some legitimacy to the removals, it’s telling how selective it was and where it wasn’t. And literally complaining about nuance as a troll in a circlejerk meme reddit … probably makes sense. But still, imagine being so fragile the huge number of downvotes could not do it for you.

Some of you really want to divide society as much as MAGA does. My message didn’t neatly fit into the circlejerk meme, so I guess I must be “trolling, or worse” - amazing.

  • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    I’ll try one more time. The appropriate context to start is from the post. The post is a comic about a MAGA supporter supposedly being forced to act more racist and Nazi-like simply because they are accused of being racist. In the comic the MAGA person is bringing in the topic of Nazism unprompted as the central part of the joke. With that context in mind, do you see that your comment(s) effectively justify or lend legitimacy to what the joke MAGA character is doing?

    The parts where you and I are saying the same thing, the primary difference is in the delivery. I’m not an admin or moderator, but if you think moderation is selectively being used against you, you have had another ban a while back with this as a suggestion:

    be constructive: there is no need of another internet space full of competition, negativity, rage.

    Please try to work on it if you can, and with your help we can bring better quality discussion to this site. Have an excellent day.

    • TheObviousSolution@lemm.eeOP
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      2 months ago

      With that context in mind, do you see that your comment(s) effectively justify or lend legitimacy to what the joke MAGA character is doing?

      It is not.

      If someone has a flaw and you accuse them of being much worse than it is, it does push them away and make them think that maybe other people who are also getting accused unjustly, making them more willing to listen and get influenced by those people. The probability they get lulled into a bubble becomes much higher. It’s why a lot of families that trusted each other have been broken up by politics.

      It is making a point of addressing what this comic is brushing off by being so reductive. There is no one in the real world that’s like the guy in the comic, but there are plenty of people who will treat anyone, even close family members, that for one reason or another have been guiled onto some interest in the MAGA movement as if they were full blown Nazis.

      You expect me to simply concede to you, while you just simply ignore what I’ve said. There are YouTube channels of people who engage with MAGA Trumpers, and while a despicable dose may be unrecoverable, there are plenty that are just living in their own bubble, oblivious to what Trump really is or even why other people are also following him, who will continue to get cult programmed by his rhetoric and who will be that far worse because of the people who burn the bridges back out of it. A lot of times they clearly have no rational motive - they are desperate for feeling they belong somewhere. This is a cult, and they are its victims.

      you have had another ban a while back with this as a suggestion

      Talk about pulling straws and talking without knowing. This ban was from Fuck Cars (hint, the name sort of gives away their commitment against negativity and rage), and the only one bringing it up is you, not me, I don’t mind being banned from it.

      But let me repeat.

      there is no need of another internet space full of competition, negativity, rage.

      From Fuck Cars.

      Case in point, the contradiction in its very name should make it clear. Their community name was literally formulated to spark negativity and rage against cars. And they act like it too, if you go into threads they get to show on your main page and are even just simply amicable to cars.

      Some context: This was from a thread with users who didn’t seem to want to accept that the speed of the vehicle and how appropriate it was in regards to the rest of the traffic was more important than the mass/KE (consider a stationary apartment complex/elevator and its dangers to your health, for example) and who didn’t think that outfitting bikes with more turn signals and indicators and perhaps even electric pedal assistant that would ensure a certain travel speed would be more respectful to vehicles on the road.

      I can’t really pinpoint who the offended mod was, as they just parade as normal users until they get offended by responses they didn’t like and then switch to their mod alt to ban, never actually engaging users with discussions or warnings about the actions they are going to enforce. They didn’t seem to mind negativity at my suggestions, but none of my replies were negative, they were dismissive at worst.

      Can’t say we were a good fit for either. If it’s as you say, it would only be fair for them, being the responsible people they are, to have made it clear themselves, and never did. Good thing they can rely on people who admit they have no idea about what happened or what caused it to make their point for them, because people should always go by their suspicions instead of context.

      But please, don’t try to derail the thread with other bans I never had an issue enough to bring up here. You have no context about what was said (unless you are alting) and it isn’t relevant except to suggest “hey guys, look, this guy gets banned elsewhere, he’s probably guilty!”

      Political Memes I’m just surprised, and well, it also reminds me a lot of how Reddit’s worldnews mods react to anyone who tries to call out Israel during the wrong timezone. Sure, it was probably the delivery, the message is the same. Sorry the delivery made it strike closer to the heart. That was the point, had there not been a comic, I would not have made that comment. And like I’ve said, even supposing the ban was justified, the selective removal of comments is very questionable and hints at something else. Frankly, getting hurt feeling “from the delivery” while not minding their own as an alt because it followed the circlejerk, I suspect.

      This post is my counter to it. I don’t mind the downvotes, so feel free to them if you disagree.