Consider to avoid adding library dependencies from frenck
community.home-assistant.io
frenck threatens down stream packagers with changing licenses to proprietary ones to forbid re-distributing. Hence to keep the home-assistant free-software it would be better not increase the reliance on his projects == Context ==

I wanted to remind people about this drama from the creator of HA, Frenck toward Nix maintainers packaging Home-Assistant in nixpkgs.

If he behaves in this immature, dictatorial way, it is not a stretch to think that he will eventually close his source code and/or cash in on the popularity of his open source software like the Pi Foundation and OpenAI did to differing degrees.

How it started.

TLDR; Frenck is convinced that he has the right to unilaterally mandate how people package his free, open source software and, in my opinion, will most likely behave with similar lack of integrity/lack of transparency with regards to profiteering off of his work eventually. We should fork the project ASAP to protect it from the power-hungry Luddite in charge (that reminds me of Spez).

  • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.caEnglish
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    3 months ago

    This drama is from 2021. HA is still open source and has been great.

    The Nix maintainers come off pretty entitled in this one. They ignore advice, requests and do not provide an engineering solution that could solve this without incurring the cost HA would bear. You don’t get to dictate or create work for an open source project that wasn’t designed to play well in your environment. If you want to get it to play nice in there, come up with a proposal that the upstream accepts and implement it. Better yet, come up with a design of your system that accommodates the upstream project. If you go ahead and create that work anyway, upstream can use the tools at their disposal to prevent that.

    • NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 months ago

      This drama is from 2021.

      Oh.
      Well.
      Then.

      Now it’s pretty clear why we should (see OP) fork as soon as possible NOW !!!1!111

    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      3 months ago

      Knowing almost nothing about “Nix”: I am inclined to say this is just one person who is REALLY REALLY REALLY angry that they were not properly respected and were ever told no and blah blah blah. Hence the clear vendetta and… calling the HA devs luddite terrorists…

      Would genuinely love a perspective on this from someone with basic people skills who understands what the nix devs actually wanted/needed to know if that was reasonable. But all signs point to “no” and “spray them with deodorant while you are at it”

    • demesisx@infosec.pubOPEnglish
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      3 months ago

      You don’t get to dictate or create work for an open source project that wasn’t designed to play well in your environment.

      It doesn’t matter how it was designed. The purpose of Nix is to get it to work in our world. We don’t request any changes to packages and pride ourselves on being able to build things without the involvement of the original team. I think I am going to repeat this point a few more times….

      come up with a proposal that the upstream accepts and implement it.

      that goes against Nix philosophy. They ask nothing of Frenck.

      Better yet, come up with a design of your system that accommodates the upstream project.

      That is literally what nix is. We pride ourselves on building any project without the involvement of nor asking anything of the original creator.