• Blackmist@feddit.uk
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    2 months ago

    We really do not value quiet enough.

    And the people here who’s idea of a utopia is all of us living in Mega City One are the worst of them.

    I used to play WoW with a guy in London, and literally every time he opened his mic to speak, it was a cacophony of sirens and cars and helicopters. I don’t know how people in cities can even here themselves think. Like, great, you can order from 20 different Chinese takeaways but at what cost?

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      2 months ago

      Most people suggesting we should densify are targeting suburbs, not rural areas. Suburbs are incredibly expensive and environmentally wasteful per square inch. They have all the utility of a city but spread out with more asphalt, cement, power, sewer, water, gas, cheap inefficient homes that leach heat/ac at an alarming rate, etc.

      In rural areas the infrastructure isn’t always as expensive because some residents have their own septic and well, live on a dirt road, heat with a wood furnace, etc. A few of those things are also more renewable. Additionally, rural areas are still required for our way of living (farming, logging, mining, fishing), while suburbs have negative societal value (they take more than they put back into the system).

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        2 months ago

        I suspect the suburb issue is one of car centric US suburbs where you can’t even get out of it without a car, rather than somewhere like the UK, where I effectively live in what is now a suburb of a larger city (if I drove there, it’s about ten miles, through an entirely built up area), but that “suburb” is also a town that’s been here since medieval times with it’s own shops and workplaces and facilities.

        Seems to me the issue is less about low density suburbs, and more about the fact that there’s nothing there apart from rows and rows of identikit housing.

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          Absolutely, North America has a special level of stupidity. To clarify yes, the suburbs in the US mostly don’t even have a real town center, many are just residential, malls, and big box stores. The average property size and spread is also often much less dense than nearly any suburb in the UK. So the infrastructure and environmental cost is much much higher.

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      2 months ago

      I’m in DC and NYC a lot, and the places I stay are almost always pretty quiet areas (cause I’m not staying in the hotbed touristy/party-y areas)

      Even in cities, most people have average boring 9 to 5 jobs and need to sleep at night. When you get away from those particular areas (of course Times Square isnt indicative of the “norm,” right?) its all pretty mundane actually.

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      Other folks will probably reply with “Cities aren’t loud, cars are loud” but sirens and helicopters will still be there even if there aren’t cars.

      Plus if the city is quiet suddenly I’m all anxious because I don’t want to bother anyone with my noise. Social anxiety and cities do not mix.

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        How many of those sirens are responding to a car related accident?I would assume a signifcant amount. They may also be able to use their sirens less if streets were less congetsed. I’m also much more forgiving hearing a siren responding to an emergency than hearing a modfiied honda fart all the way to McDonalds.

        Not doing anything about car noise pollution just because sirens and helicopters still exist is a poor solution.

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    And those motocross. My family lives in a rural area with a rail trail. So to go there I often just cycle on the rail trail.

    Unfortunately it’s also used by a local motocross group. They’re not supposed to but they obviously don’t give a fuck.

    At least you can hear them coming from kilometres away. Which is interesting because the police or whoever is supposed to enforce “bicycles only” on that bike path doesn’t seem to hear them. Nor see the very obvious tracks.

    The most insulting part is that they close the path in fall, winter and spring because they don’t want CYCLISTS to damage the bike path, yet there’s assholes on motocross driving on it.

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    dude…your bike is farting so loud you gave grandma a heart attack…that’s not as cool as you imagine it to be :/

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    2 months ago

    It’s a perfectly normal hobby for 100% straight, manly, conservative, white (did I mention straight?) men, who like to meet up with other 100% straight men, to wear skin-tight leather suits and enjoy the strong vibrations of their hot Harley engine between their legs.

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      the future’s gonna be fun, watching these idiots lose their entire identity - vroom vroom - to the inescapable fact that they’re killing themselves and our environment with their bullshit.

      the temper tantrums are going to be hilarious, and more than a few will die to hold on to their noisemaking smog machines, because to them, that’s freedom.

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        What do you mean the future? It’s happening now. One party has ran on “the EPA is trying to ban cars.”

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      I’m driving an EV and I would like to prove you wrong.

      I was making tea in a teapot, when I poured in the boiled water and closed the lid, the hot air inside expanding and making the tea overflowing through the spout. In a panic, I quickly used my finger to plug the spout in an attempt to stop the overflowing, and thus burned my finger.

      My best friend of 20 years was sitting there and witnessed the whole thing. It has been years since and he’s still bringing it up occasionally.

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        “A falling knife has no handle.”

        Your reflexes were faster than your brain, happens sometimes.

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          Yep. Every time a blade is dropped I step back and push/pull anyone else away.

          I shave with a safety razor and made that mistake once. Thankfully a minor scratch but still scary.

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            As a kid I got yelled at for breaking the iron, because it fell and I moved instead of catching it.

            Once my mom was done, I asked her if a new iron was cheaper than a hospital bill for two burned hands.

            She didn’t apologize for yelling, but she said I was right.

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    I have one of these assholes next door. It could be 4 in the morning and said shit, revving in the driveway for ten+ minutes before riding off. Then you still have to wait for them to get a hold away before you get any peace. These same shit stains are always blasting classic rock through their tiny motorcycle speakers loud enough to hear over the already deafening exhaust.

    But he’s not even the worst offender on my street. There are three homes, each with more vehicles than driveway that have diesel trucks and wannabe race cars. For whatever reason these idiots all leave their shit idling for up to an hour at a time. It is not unusual for multiple vehicles to just be running at any given time day or night while my personal possessions vibrate uncontrollably. There may also be music blasting from one or more of these vehicles. The noise is the worst part but depending on the wind I also get exhaust fumes entering my bedroom when I’m just trying to exist.

    If you guessed that this is in Florida you’d be right. Can’t wait to escape this hellhole.

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    Man, there is a small d man who lives along my street and EVERY F DAY he drives his loud and noisy motorbike. It’s driving me insane!

    Also, there is a car that every f day, around 10 am, drive down the street, but his carburetor is open, being stupidly loud! It make me literally sick!

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      There was a guy who used to rev his obnoxiously loud bike super early and super late round my way, it was so loud it would leave your ears ringing even inside with the windows shut.

      He died in a bike accident and everyone was happy, so many neighbour’s I’ve barely spoken to shared a quiet comment about it.

      We do though get a ride through every year from the chapter of the gang he was in because he died ‘a heros death’ according to them as he had been fighting a different group of manchildren on motorbikes earlier that day and they were possibly chasing him at the time.

      The family have a shrine to him by the road (not where he died, just near their house) with empty beer cans, burnt out candles, biker patches, cheap plastic skulls, and slogans about how tough or cool bikers are. It’s a fascinating testament to how we form groups and make our own reality, I think he and they really believe that when we saw him on that stupidly loud bike we wished we could be as cool as him rather than everyone viewing him as nothing but an annoyance.

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        2 months ago

        Duality exists. He might have been awesome in a way they saw, even if his loud pipes were annoying to you.

        Don’t know if he was, only that you got a limited view of this person, and it seems cruel to degenerate how other people mourn.

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          I know plenty of people that knew him, sure he was a good friend to some but when your whole personality is egotistical attention seeking through violence and disruption then yeah I’m going to quietly laugh at the irony of a shrine which only serves as a reminder to the locals that their life was made a little better and safer.

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        Man, I swear there is a small d man who lives along my street and EVERY F DAY he drives his loud and noisy motorbike. I swear It’s driving me insane!

        Also, I swear there is a car that every f day, around 10 am, drive down the street, but his carburetor is open, being stupidly loud! I swear It make me literally sick!

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    2 months ago

    Where I am harleys aren’t so much of an issue as extremely loud uber eats scooters. Everywhere should just ban gas mopeds. The downside is it’ll come off as a tax on underpaid uber eats drivers, but if the same rules apply to everyone it should end up going to the Uber Corporation and the people who use it instead of the drivers. As it is basically all of us are subsidizing uber eats with our ears.