But they’re only going to repeal Obamacare, not the Affordable Care Act!
I know Steve!
“I did not expect the leopards to eat my face!” Said the woman who voted for The Leopards Eating Faces Party
The very same people also hate “normies” in their fandoms, and by normies they mean anyone not a cishet white man.
Oh I’m getting downvoted, so:
- Generative AI is bad, and people should fight tooth and nail in destroying it.
- China is a far-right dictatorship masquerading with leftist symbols.
Hit the downvote button again!
Sounds like my retiree father-in-law who insists that Social Security isn’t a social service and should be the one exception to absolute abolition of all government services because they’re “communist.”
Ask those same people if they will abolish paying for the military. See what they say.
What they (Republicans, conservatives, libertarians, centrists) really want is emergency departments over run with patients who can’t get care for chronic conditions and then they have an excuse to repeal EMTALA. At that point they’ll be able to sink people deep into medical debt and when social security and Medicare/Medicaid fails to cover the costs then we can force medically disabled people into low wage jobs and take their assets to sell at pennies on the dollar to mega corps and further consolidate wealth in this country.
We should instead create a pipeline for that wealth to flow through the lower and middle class on it’s way up to the top bringing the floor up and making sure basic infrastructure like medical care has the funding it needs.
If you make the wealthy ultra wealthy then their urine is full of healthy nutrients when they piss on you.
That’s the basis to tinkle down economics.
You can dislike a policy and still be forced to live under it.
I have no choice but to use the American health care system, and I know how shitty it is, especially given the fact that Obama had a supermajority for a time and could have implemented universal health care. Few things will anger me as quickly as someone saying we have ‘access’ to health care when that supposed access is largely contingent on whether or not you can afford to be price-gouged.
Obama was not a good president.
You can thank Sen. Joe Lieberman for the killing of a public option. Also, https://www.huffpost.com/entry/debunking-the-myth-obamas_b_1929869 .
LOL
That’s always the first argument. The poor, defenseless Dems are just powerless to make real, substantial change. Their hands are tied. Better things simply aren’t possible. It was all the fault of the rotating villain.
And yet people still vote for these same Democrats who are bleeding them dry.
You’re simply wrong here. Obama tried his damndest for universal health care. Supermajority or not, the republicans in congress used every trick in the book to stymie it until they gained the majority. The ACA was a lame compromise and the worst of both worlds, but it’s still benefitted millions including those who hate illogically.
Obama tried his damndest for universal health care.
No he didn’t. The Dems were offered a large lobbyist check and took it.
Do you feel like sourcing that?
You‘re doing important work against misinformation. Thank you.
Just being a petty asshole about unsourced information, like I always have been.
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This was said after single-payer was blocked. This was his version of RomneyCare, in response to the original vision being defeated via filibuster.
The filibuster was the Democrats’ excuse. They used that excuse many times, and it was never legitimate.
If minority Republicans can use it to block everything, then minority Democrats can too … except that’s not how it played out … and that’s how we know that the corporate Dems were just pandering to big pharma et al.
You’re technically correct but you’re ignoring the intention of the post. I agree Obamacare sucks. I want Medicare for All. But the people this post is obviously directed at want it to go away for reasons and just go back to how it was before.
I’d say better than the previous or later
I’m glad it’s working out for you.
I can’t imagine it’s that great for a country where tens of millions can’t absorb a sudden $400 expense without going further into debt, seeing as how it’s a capitalist system that price-gouges people for their care.
Uh, of course it’s not that great–but that doesn’t mean it isn’t better or we want to go backwards to when it was worse.
“You commie liberals better keep your government hands off my Medicare!”
I’m not American, but this happens a lot more than you’d think.
I live in Canada.
A relative of a friend actually voted for a party called “the People’s party of Canada”, and one of their goals as a party was to eliminate subsidized housing. That relative of my friend… lived in subsidized housing and was not able to afford to have a home if not subsidized.
They literally voted for a party that, if they had won, would have made them homeless.
I don’t think that the PPC won a single district (giving them no seats in government); much to their benefit and their disappointment.
Schools really need to teach critical thinking.
No, no, they don’t mean me! They mean all the people that don’t deserve it!
I supported the ACA (though would’ve preferred a public option), but the one time I actually needed to use it, was for my Dad when his private insurance from his job kicked him off after retirement, the rates and coverage seemed bad, like it was just such a hassle with no great benefits. It’s only when I realized my Dad could still get Tricare that I switched over to that and that was a million times better (even more reason for govt-funded healthcare). I have no idea why my Dad hadn’t been using it the whole time either, he probably wasted tens of thousands of dollars getting private insurance. I still think ACA is a step in the right direction, BUT public option still needs to happen, Fuck Joe Lieberman for blocking that.
The ACA is good when you actually reach out to a patient care “assister” for support. You can get rates WAY lower than advertised if you work with someone who can help navigate it. I think the program is actually tremendous, but it’s been made intentionally cumbersome and difficult to use by the folks trying to kill it. I’ve used it twice while out of work back in 2016 and again over the pandemic and had completely free plans that covered my “tier 3” prescriptions and specialist (rheumatology) appointments.
It’s only when I realized my Dad could still get Tricare that I switched over to that and that was a million times better (even more reason for govt-funded healthcare).
One of the biggest flaws of the ACA is how it’s engineered to be worse than employee sponsored care. Can’t actually just open up Medicare For All or you’ll make the private insurance system sad.
You can mathematically group the people in your life in such a way so that half of the people you know are stupider than the other half.
I swear to fuckin’ god, man, politics make it real easy to tell who goes in which half. It’s not a perfect method, but it works at least 85% of the goddamned time.Cool meme, but surely you realize that using a system and being against the system are not in conflict.
Then again if they like the system and think it shouldn’t be dismantled and still vote for someone who wants to dismantle, that’s dumb stupid.
Not sure how you can apply that principle here. If people don’t want insurance at all, we get it, but this is all about people who could not get insurance before and now are paying for this 100% optional thing.
Of course they could be in favor of NHS or an equivalent. That’s certainly possible. But I think you were not going that direction with your logic.
Nah. Relying on the ACA, and voting for people who want to abolish it is a leopards eating faces situation.
The guy in this meme is wrong because he’s not paying attention to the wider pressures of society, and the needs of the people he’s talking to, when those people just want a better system.
He disagrees with the woman demanding better ethical practices from Apple because she uses an Apple product, but the reality is that it is difficult to navigate modern society without a smartphone, and there’s pretty much no brand that doesn’t have some ethical failings in their supply chain. It’s not hypocrisy to point out a systemic issue, and want to see it resolved, if your participation is unavoidable.
He disagrees with the man wanting seatbelts for his car, because he bought a car without them. Wanting greater safety features for the machinery you regularly operate is pragmatic, not hypocritical. Seeing a problem and offering a solution is a productive thing to do.
But relying on the ACA for access to healthcare, and then voting to have the ACA dismantled with absolutely no plan on how to replace it, essentially denying millions of Americans, including themselves, access to healthcare? That’s just fucking insane. There’s no call for a better system. There’s no suggestion for how to do things differently. Just a call to tear down a system that people rely on for their health.
If you think that we ought to hear the Republicans out on their anti-Healthcare agenda, or that people who rely on the ACA aren’t voting against their own interests when they vote Republican, you’re not paying attention to what’s at stake.
AKA monopoly.
“Social Security’s great for the old folks, but there’s no way it’ll be around when we’re old”
Votes for the guy trying to destroy social security.
I mean, technically that’s correct, if they keep voting for the guy trying to destroy social security lol
Ronald Reagan was cutting advertising telling people that Social Security was going to go bankrupt in a generation back in 1961.
Then he took office in 1980 (after he’d predicted bankruptcy) on the position and “fixed” SS by raising taxes on low income Americans and gutting their benefits. But the subsequent multi-trillion dollar trust fund didn’t satisfy SS scalds. They still insisted it was going bankrupt, so Republicans raised taxes and gutted benefits again under Clinton and Gingrich, while introducing alternative privatized savings programs (401k, IRA, etc).
But that still didn’t satisfy scalds. They tried to privatize the program in 2005 under Bush Jr. That failed, but we still got an earful about how SS was going to fail in the next 20 years if we didn’t do something. So then Obama tried to pass another round of cuts and tax hikes in 2013, but Republicans killed that too. So then Trump claimed we were headed to a Fiscal Cliff in 2017, and tried to privatize SS, but Republicans refused to pass that either.
At this point, we’ve passed repeated deadlines under which SS was supposedly going to fail. The 1970s, the 1980s, the 2000s, the 2020s… We’re still waiting on the Big Cliff in 2037, but since COVID killed several million people far sooner than expected, that’s thrown the math of significantly.
I anticipate we will continue to hear people predicting the end of SS until Congress finally finds the majority they need to kill it.
