• GladiusB@lemmy.world
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    God he is such a piece of garbage. Like I can usually dismiss his antics as selfish and stupid and just some moron that doesn’t think beyond his own needs and wants. But this is downright villainous. I hope he dies a horrible death and no one celebrates anything about him.

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    It’s a federal crime to put your hands on a federal employee, the employee doesn’t have to be named or anything the federal government can pursue it in the interest of justice in her stead.

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      Or Dark Brandon could just “disappear” the orange bastard in a Supreme Court-protected “official act.”

      One or the other. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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      Unfortunately he’d just argue for the 6th, of having the right to face your accuser/witnesses in any criminal case. And once he knows the accuser’s name, he’ll plaster her info all over his network, even with the ever useful gag-order.

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        They have witnesses and their accuser is the federal government like felony murder.

        Ed: plaster a witness and victim that’s a government employee? No no, he can get away with quite a bit but middle employees will never let this shit stand.

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          but middle employee employees will never let this shit stand.

          He said, seemingly unaware of the last decade of American politics.

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            When in the last decade did a politician assault a government employee on camera then lie and blame it on them? I seem to forget that one.

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              Remember that time a guy body slammed a reporter?

              inb4 “a reporter isn’t a government employee!”

              These clowns are never held accountable, haven’t we all figured that out yet? Standards of conduct and morals are only effective when your own followers have them.

              edit: just wait until you learn about the unitary executive theory, a vast number of “conservatives” believe the president should have the power to just fire the Arlington employee and replace them with someone loyal to the president.

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                You mean the time that guy got convicted of assault on someone who wasn’t a government employee? Yes, yes I do.

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                  They’ve been escalating rhetoric against various govt agencies and employees of them for years, it’s only going to get worse.

                  We don’t even need to argue it though, we can wait and see if this turns any MAGAts away from Trump or if Steven Cheung, the staffer that did the shoving, is charged.

                  I wish “middle employees” had the time or could afford to give a shit and that this would make a difference, I’m not that optimistic.

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            People don’t have sympathy for judges, they don’t generally love government workers but you don’t fuck with workers people can actually relate to.

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          Then he’ll make the argument that it’s all made up if they don’t reveal the victim.

          We’re talking about a guy that tries to make any, and everything a legal loophole. It’s one of the reasons his cases take so much time for the prosecution to build their cases

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    if he’s allowed to take the white house again, they’ll just shoot people like this. “offiially”

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    Profoundly disappointed but also understanding. I just have to hope there are enough people in their path who are willing to throw down and get difficult.

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    The majority of decent Americans are not prone to violence but this crap is building up outrage among Democrats, Independents and conservative Republicans to a point where all hell is about to bust out.

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          Exactly. This was the “initiative” to which I was referring. We’re further from that than any other time in my life. I just keep wondering when the breaking point is going to be.

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            They were even saying that at the time. No one is going to stand in the desert in Arizona at the end of spring.

            My family didn’t participate. Not sure what my parents’ reason or reasons were.

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              My family did, I’m 100% sure it was my dads doing as it doesn’t seem like something mom would do.

              I was little, i just remember driving to a nearby town and standing on the side of a road holding hands with someone for a few minutes and then leaving lol.

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                I would have been 9 years old at the time. If my parents made me hold hands with a stranger, I would have felt really uncomfortable.

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                  I would’ve been 6; my parents probably sandwiched us kids between them. It was the 80s though, I might’ve been besties with a stranger if they said had an NES and Super Mario Brothers at home lol.

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      Doesn’t/ won’t matter if the Dems don’t go out and vote. Remember the bulkshit that was 2016. Complacency started it all.

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    I understand why the employee is not pressing charges. It’s a matter of their and their family’s safety. Ok.

    But what I don’t understand is that if using the cemetery for political purposes is against the law, and there are obviously many photos released and used in Trump’s campaign material, why not use that evidence to charge Trump¥, the campaign, and the photographers?

    ¥ Sadly even if they tried to arrest Trump, I’m sure it wouldn’t stick anyway because apparently he gets away with everything.

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      In order to press charges she has to announce her name publicly. And if she does that, MAGAts will come after her and her family. May even try to kill her. Trump’s followers are not our best.

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        I’ve seen several cases where on the docket and in court records its an anonymous victim, since charges aren’t filed by the individual when it comes to criminal matters. It’s the state or federal government that is levying the charges and the victim is largely a witness.

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      Because Trump is rich and influential and it’s long past the time we should stop pretending the law actually applies to everyone.

      Laws and rules are for regular people, if you are rich or famous or influential enough, laws do not apply to you

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      Why not arrest ANY of the 50 or so people. Just start arresting the poorest person in the photo (money means no consequences) and then every day the next and so on.

      I think it would super interesting.

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          I agree with making the employee a target.

          But Trump is known for not protecting those who stand up for him. The low level staffers would be in trouble and their god-king won’t bail them out. He only cares about himself.

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      This is a problem with liberals. Conservatives are playing to win, even if it means playing dirty. Liberals are playing to play. That is why Conservatives are winning and getting more powerful even while being openly wrong, weird, and stupid.

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        But they aren’t winning, and aren’t becoming more powerful. The GOP is weaker and more fractured than it’s ever been in living memory.

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          They have the supreme court, they have taken away abortion rights. Jan 6th happened which was an attempted coup and very few were charged, some that were, were even released. Trump is openly talking about election fraud for the upcoming election. Trump is talking about becoming a Dictator. That is just the big stuff.

          Yeah, they aren’t that popular, but that doesn’t seem to be stopping them.

          In any sane society these actions would be lead Trump to be tried for Treason and MAGA to be labeled as a terrorist organization.

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            They also have a very good chance at taking both houses of Congress. I believe either half or more than half of the state Governors are Rep, and same for state houses. They’re not at all weak.

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        Your argument is full of fail. Straight from the beginning your position is established. Why should anyone listen to anything you have to say and not just block you outright?

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      I don’t know how any of this works, but I assume some person who “has been harmed” by the actions needs to press charges. I would assume that could potentially be any American. Wouldn’t it be great if Harris did it? The former prosecutor/DA filing charges against the criminal opponent.

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        I don’t think that’s right. In cases where the person pressing charges makes the difference between filing suit or not, it’s like because their testimony is crucial to the case. The government doesn’t need it, though.

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        In most common law jurisdictions, the executive branch doesn’t require even a victim, they merely need the elements of the criminal offence satisfied.

        Not sure about the US, likely they need her to strengthen the case and won’t bother without her witness testimony.

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      Bro if he didn’t get any consequences from his FELONIES, you think him pushing someone is gonna get him punished?

      They know he will get away with everything unless he loses in November.

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      Law prohibits political campaign or election related activities at the cemetery, not photography in general. If their photographs are not used by their campaign officials and trump can reasonably articulate a reason to have been there aside from campaigning, which would be pretty easy, it does not seem there would be any grounds against him. It seems the news reporting on the incident is the primary coverage of the visit.

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    This is where we are today with Trump’s America.

    I thought we were currently living in Biden’s America. Is Trump president right now?

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      Are democrats the ones sending death threats to judges, prosecutors, jury members, children who were raped on Epstein’s Island and now Army attendants? Hell, the parents of of the kids who were murdered at Sandy Hook had to deal with death threats and people accusing them of being crisis actors for a decade thanks to fuckers like Alex Jones.

      It’s telling that you found the need to defend this type of activity. It seems… unamerican. Cowardly.

      Might be time for a long look in the mirror and ask yourself where you went wrong. You can still turn back.

      Is this who you really want to be?

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      While not currently in an official position of power, Trump has become an integral part of American politics.

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    Can’t believe this would happen to a whistleblower in a country as free and independent as the United States of America.

    Are we sure this isn’t just far left propaganda?

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    If there’s evidence of the crime,I don’t think they actually need the victim to press charges themselves?

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      In truth assault is a crime against the state. A criminal charge, even if she doesn’t want to press charges they should have to face a judge and the state attorney (if they were civilians). Military it goes to their courts, which they are being cowards and letting it go.

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      They wanted to release the footage of them filming explicitly where they were asked not to film. Smh.

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    In case anyone was wondering, this is the bullshit perspective Republicans are jerking each other off with:

    Harris was asked to be there by the Gold Star families and she refused. Her and Biden both refused. They are responsible for the casualties that occurred during that Afghanistan pullout, and they couldn’t face the families despite being asked to be there.

    That should be the story.

    But nah. Desperate media makes it about Trump taking pictures with the family who asked him to take pictures.

    This is why no one trusts the media.

    So, to sum up, “Poor Trumpie”, “desperate media”, “don’t trust ‘the media’”, somehow Biden and Harris’s fault, and no mention of the rules of the cemetery or assaulting the employee.

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      Well, it can’t be Mr. “I-don’t-know-anything-about-any-bad-things-and-take-all-credit-for-all-good-things” Trump’s fault now, can it? He’s absolutely immune, infallible, perfect and if reality doesn’t agree, then we just rewrite reality until it fits. Easy.