• vxx@lemmy.world
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    I usually find they aren’t fans of Jesus but following a crazy institution mangling the words of him.

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    As society progresses, people that hate femboys are going to notice their Almighty has been the paragon all along.

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    It’s funny, but there’s never a situation where these four should be in the same picture. You’re implying that following these guys is following Jesus, or at least that’s how it’ll be portrayed when it’s convenient.

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    Seriously Jesus. You’re a cool guy, and I know your thing is you take in the broken, but your other thing was suppose to be love. Like you said one commandment, love, and that shit is severely lacking.

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      I think the person Jesus actually was loved everyone, but the trouble is conservative people hate gay people and rewrote the texts to say that.

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        Yeah, Jesus, the historical figure was trying to reshape Judaism. He wanted to reform things and he wanted the focus to be on loving your brother. He got killed for it and he knew it would kill him because he was hanging out with the religious leaders.

        Then by a miracle he succeeded because he didnt have any transgressions againt the temple and he followed Jewish teachings but was still setup to be crucified in the worst way imaginable.

        The after that he was co-op’d for other purposes but his message is still true. Believing in christ is believing a man named Jesus lived and he was killed by not fault of his own but for the benefit of others.

        Being a Christian means you understand Christ’s message, it real easy, love your brother, and you live in a way that reflects that.

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          And for God’s sake stop hating queer people. It’s absolutely against everything Christ teaches and is a made up bit of nonsense.

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              Here is a beautiful poem about that:

              THAT’S what Jesus is, not some holy slobbering uneducated filth yelling about groomers.

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                Another beautiful poem about it, more specifically against everything that religious Karens conservatives stand for:

                If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.

                If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.

                If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.

                Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.

                It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.

                Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.

                1 Corinthians 13

                Looking at the hate and anger that they spew… how can anyone remain convinced that they are about “Christianity” aka love?

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        Well… A lot of their biblical evidence is less a rewrite and more of a translation issue. Take the whole Sodom and Gehmorra story about tje two angels that everyone is so keen to turn into a condemnation of the gays.

        In the OG text the words used to describe the angels were analog to genderless forms of the word “master” and because there were two of them they were always referred to by genderless they/them plural… Which is probably why there were two of them. We are probably supposed to imply the perceived gender of the angels was irrelevant to the tale.

        The first Latin and English translations off of Hebrew however used gendered terms for the two angels that coded them as male. Stuff like “Masters” “Lords” that kind of thing in large part because those societies were respectively fairly misogynistic and not primed to interpret either of the two genderless entities as possibility female coded. Then you see the anti same sex interpretation gain popularity in the case of England and France at the time they were going through a population crash via plague which caused amoung other things criminalization of same sex unions as a threat to sexual replacement of a sharply diminished population. So really we can trace this story being interpreted as God’s condemnation of the gays rather then just regular old rapists around the same time the word “sodomy” came into the lexicon in the 1300’s.

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    Why catholics hate queers so much if Jesus was into drag?
    Some questions history can’t answer.

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      Why catholics hate queers so much

      Once you explain to a Catholic that their son/daughter can still deliver grandkids despite being queer, they come around.

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      Fun fact. Joseph’s coat of many colors is more accurately translated as a coat with long sleeves. That likely references an outfit made from a mother’s bridal gown and passed to the daughter.

      That is: Joseph was an effiminate youngest child who didn’t do men’s work and wore women’s clothing. He was also persecuted by his brothers for it.

      He also ended up being the de facto ruler of Egypt and savior of the Jewish people.

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        As fun as that fanfiction is, there is no textual evidence for the Joseph’s kitonet pasim being made from his mother’s bridal gown (especially as first marriage bridalwear was plain white cloth, something Joseph’s cloak was famous for not being.) Additionally, Joseph’s story is chronologically VERY VERY early in what wasn’t yet even Hebrew culture, so would likely bear zero resemblance to post-Canaan Hebrew culture.

        The reference to ‘long sleeves’ has to do with his brother’s jealousy at the quality and material excess of the garment. Not the source the garment was made from.

        It’s kind of bigoted of you to assume that he was gay just because his brothers picked on him.

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          “Pasim” probably doesn’t mean multicolored. It can also mean long-sleeved or fine-quality, and the only other place it occurs in Hebrew scripture is when it’s referring to Tamar’s robe, where it’s described as the type of clothing worn by virgin daughters.

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            I can see you’re emotionally invested in this because it probably empowers some aspect of your identity, so there’s really no point in continuing.

            Some day you may understand the value of seeing clearly, I encourage you to pursue that.

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              Dude, it’s literally what’s written in the text.

              Just because Donny Osmund wore a multicolored robe and danced on stage doesn’t mean his portrayal was accurate to the text. The New Testament also doesn’t include Charlton Heston trying to give water to Jesus at the crucifiction.

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      It’s easy, gays don’t make babies and the catholic church has run out of countries to convert. The only major growth for their faction is to force more people to have kids.

      So the Catholic Church and the GOP are on the same page of that playbook.

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    Doesnt this guy who married and raped a 9 year old have a rabid fan base who foams at the mouth at a simple cartoon depiction of their holy idol? I mean, fuck everyone in OP’s post, but like, cmon, you only had room for 4?? Throw in a kpop group as well. There’s an overwhelming abundance of insufferable zealots outside of dipshit american conservatives. Lets try to be inclusive here.