I might not be understanding something about the fediverse, but isn’t this like if you couldn’t send or receive email from a friend because you use gmail Google decided to block @icloud domains?

Like, you’re not forced to follow or interact with it, and are free to block it if you can think of a reason to, I just don’t see why such an open platform used to limit users in this way

  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    I think the argument is that Meta would hoover up and profit from posts from people who don’t consent to use it. AFAIK, you can’t block an instance from seeing your posts and comments, so the only real option is defederation.

    • Arcane2077@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      3 months ago

      You can’t block anything from seeing your posts and comments though. That is point of a free and public space. Defederation isn’t doing what you think it is

        • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com
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          3 months ago

          only until llm scrapers hit the market. they will make the api requirement negligible. like reddit is finding out now… you can block your api all you want but people are just going to scrape your public site.

          • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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            3 months ago

            Sure, but that’s not the issue at all. The issue is that they’d be linking lemmy content from within Threads, as in using Lemmy content to drive engagement for Threads. Whether it’s used in an LLM is another matter entirely. Without direct API integration, Lemmy posts and comments won’t show up in Threads. That’s my take on why people want to defederate.

            • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com
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              3 months ago

              so youre saying meta may use the information youre publicly posting as if it was public information?

              e. solution seems simple. require login to view content… or dont

      • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com
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        3 months ago

        this is exactly it. these people are posting public information, and are then getting butt-hurt when its used a public resource.

        im running an mbin instance (shoutout https://moist.catsweat.com !), which does connect to threads. I purposefully avoided using lemmy as its not capable of doing that. I wanted to give people stuck in the FB walled garden a path out where they could still communicate with their friends and family on threads.

        my only concern with threads is one of resource management/volume. I cant have their stream physically take down my server, so that would be the only reason for me to block them.

        a rather large lemmy contingent are vehemently, emotionally anti-meta. see also the ‘fedipact’