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        But I am speaking at the funamental level, a brown eye tortured into become blue is still a malformed brown eye. An operation doesn’t change your DNA nor the origin of what you are.

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          a brown eye tortured into become blue

          Your English rather poor, comrade. Better practice front of mirror more times.

          If you’re born Vladimir, but you move to the West where no-one knows it, and you introduce yourself as Robert and everyone calls you Robert, are you not then Robert?

          Gender is in your DNA silly. That’s the whole “gender is different from sex” that’s the scientific consensus. You said you rely on science, yet now you argue your brainfarts are more valid than consensus of the entire scientific community?

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            Then you would know DNA is decided at conception as an immutable state, it doesn’t change, every cell in your body holds a complete copy of your ancestors spliced DNA sequences. That is the science, gender is a part of this makeup. A human can only pretend to change their inherited characteristics.

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              That is the science, gender is a part of this makeup

              I refer you to the image I posted earlier.

              Here, have it again.

              #Sex refers to “the different biological and physiological characteristics of males and females, such as reproductive organs, chromosomes, hormones, etc.” Gender refers to "the socially constructed characteristics of women and men – such as norms, roles and relationships of and between groups of women and men.

              I’m afraid you just might be cognitively incapable of understanding that sex is different from gender.

              Like trying to teach a dog to whistle, this.

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                Great so you agree a transwoman is a man by sex, and a woman by societies new definition of gender. We are totally starting to get each other.

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                  “New definition”?

                  Oh my sweet summer child, just because you’re hearing about it only now doesn’t mean this difference in sex and gender is new.

                  No, no, no.

                  It’s older than the written word,

                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_gender#History

                  In Mesopotamian mythology, among the earliest written records of humanity, there are references to types of people who are not men and not women.

                  Also, you don’t seem to understand the scientific side of the biological effects of HRT.

                  Yes, trans women will always be male by DNA if they were genetically male pre-transition. This doesn’t even remotely mean they are men, and to make that argument is to literally deny science, like a Flat Earther.