• LittleZaZa1@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    You don’t miss that much. They are trying to do edgy dank memes in german. The “culture” they represent is quite white and cleasend from migrant humor.

    Its the german version of these alt right pepe memes.

    Seriously, you missed nothing.

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      How is it “cleasend”? Did you mean “cleansed”?

      I mean the community is very male and white dominated but not excluding anyone. And more self referential than edgy. What even makes it edgy??

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          I’m still not sure what exactly you mean but I would love to see immigrant culture on ich_iel and I think most others do too! It’s not that the community is hostile or anything and people who don’t speak German or things explained when they ask.

          How could the community be more inclusive? What would you suggest? Or where do you see active hostility?

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            They are hostile. There are anti migrant dog whistles all over the sub and a lot more on reddit.

            German discrimination is always very “under the hood” and highly sophisticated. You cant be “right and proud” due to the holocaust.

            The reality is that the second strongest party has roots to the old NSDAP.

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                  Maybe how a community that has quite a number of anti-CDU memes is dogwhistling nazi code. That the community is German isn’t enough to say it is nazi. You can link posts and explain the dogwhistles or maybe decode some common dogwhistles without link. I’m curious to lern the NS background of surgeons.

                  Edit: For starters here is one opposed to the AfD: https://feddit.org/post/934777

                  Edit2: Another anti right meme: https://feddit.org/post/953166
                  You are yet to give me one example or argument or piece of evidence for your bold claims.

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      Pepe memes are hilarious though. I suppose that is why you specified alt right pepe memes. It is indeed true, lotta right wingers can’t meme

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      Well tell me how exactly a non white culture is supposed to emerge in a country with a non existent colored population, or am i missing some specific meaning here ?

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        Listen Nazi smooog.

        We have 5 Million turks (1st and 2nd gen), 1 Million Syrians and 1 million from all over west Asia and Africa. Out of ~50M adults

        w€ aRe sUCH a WhiTE cuLtUrE

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          Yes thats about 14% of the population ehich are living mostly in cities and usually in blocks with very high percentage of immigrants and very little exchange. I would see it more as living on the same turf than living together… No shared culture emerges from that

          Also stop pushing people into categories because you dont like their opinions

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            Yeah those stupid migrants risked EVERYTHING to come here and live and ghetto’s and push weed.

            Reality is, they arent allowed to work, and even if they have a job, only german last names get flats in german neighborhoods. And there is actual law which allows racism in that regard. Systematic rasicm is woven with old German racial thinking.

            The boxes are fine. You and iel fit well in the neo-nazi box :)

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              You just said the majority was turks, last time i checked turkey wasn’t that bad.

              If you need a simple abstraction like those neonazis and us rightful fair progressives or whatever you probably have a simple personality which fits just as well in in of those boxes. Its probably hard to perceive complexity in this position…

              Awaiting your enraged answer with amusement, clearly superior person of the internet

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                  Quote exactly from MY comments where i wrote something saying " immigrants are bad" or similar…

                  Edit if you take this seriosly im actally wondering

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    I studied German in high school but I don’t remember any of it. I like to pretend that ich_iel is just using made up nonsense words, like the Swedish Chef muppet.

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          That’s the meme. They translate English expressions, names and brands into German 1:1, disregarding any standing idioms and available translations. Hard to read even as a German native. Struggling to figure out what to OP meant is like 90% of the fun.

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            Haha, I remember trying to tell a German colleague that another colleague was ‘ingverklerten’ because he had red hair, apparently the German word for ginger is not used to represent colour. Almost as popular as our attempt to call someone a ‘glockenende’ when they had been foolish. Sounds like I should look into ich_iel a bit.

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    French is so difficult to learn because of the pronunciation. Spanish is much easier to learn in comparison. I don’t get why all school in Germany prefer French as third language before Spanish.

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        Also long history of french being what different social elites like nobles and intellectuals liked to cosplay, leading to french being kind of a status symbol for being culturally educated

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            The notion of national character might also be deceptive regarding its practicality, specifically to understand culture. Sincerly, practical german

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          Also I think the more pressing/interesting question is why they don’t teach turkish, since ~every 30th person has a turkish backround

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            English and French are world languages and open up job opportunities. Turkish is only spoken in Turkey, it isn’t interesting economically and immigration from Turkey to Germany is a one-way street. If you want to learn Turkish that’s cool, but it is and should be optional at school.

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              Thats the gist. Of course it should be optional, no one said it should be mandatory, and I feel like the defensiveness of that argument is not entirely accidental.

              My argument is that learning the language of the majority of immigrants would be testimony of a actually open post-migrant society.

              Instead it’s “no one migrates to turkey and its economically useless”, as if learning french in school would be relevant to the migration of germans to france. Encounters of germans and turskish migrants happens on daily basis though.

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                Of course it should be optional, no one said it should be mandatory

                I made the distinction because English and French were mandatory at my school in Germany. Many more languages were offered though if they had a teacher available. I remember Spanish, Italian and Chinese, I just can’t remember if Turkish was one of them.

                I feel like the defensiveness of that argument is not entirely accidental.

                My family is Kurdish, so I admit that maybe there’s a subconscious bias when learning Turkish comes up, if you know anything about the situation in Turkey and Kurdistan 🙂

                as if learning french in school would be relevant to the migration of germans to france.

                French skills are extremely valuable to Germans who want to work in Switzerland or Luxembourg

                Btw, ben de biraz türkçe biliyorum, ama çok konuşmiyorum… in my daily life 😅 Dunno how to say that last part

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                  Haha okay I automatically assumed I was talking to a techie-alman speaking out of a eurocentric perspective. How the turn tables.

                  Of course I understand your bias.

                  And yeah, switzerland… I still think that affects much less people than there are people living and working alongside turkish immigrants. This should motivate seeing turkish culture as valuable in the sense of living the cultural melting pot we created for economic reasons.

                  I dont understand the turkish part… something annoys you I guess? Anyway biji kurdistan. (Also not sure how to spell that. In my school they taught french and latin)

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      The most populated region at war times was West Germany. It was governed by France after war.

      I have no idea if this is actually the reason but we are incredibly thankful for restoring our country by our french friends - which we harassed and killed beforehand.

      They still got up to the job.

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    It takes like 3 seconds to screengrab and auto-translate? Gets the joke across like 99% of the time. Always worth it.

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    I’m legit considering getting back to learning German to understand their memes, they look so juicy

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    guys i can read that shit and trust me you’re not missing out on anything. if you could read those lame jokes, you’d block the community like i did

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      And it’s less funny if you translate it into English because part of the joke is literal translations that make no sense in German

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      I see the memes and laugh because I imagine a German person seeing it and laughing at it.