The Civil War… The bloodiest war in American history; brother fighting against brother.
All other American wars combined, through the Korean War, claimed fewer lives than the Civil War alone. In World War II, 30 out of every 10,000 men in uniform perished. Civil War combat was six times as deadly, killing 182 per 10,000.
I hope that ends up being worse than this. I’m not sure it will be, but even if it is, the Civil War is a very high watermark. Things can get very very very VERY BAD without reaching that point. We don’t want to get anywhere close to that
I would say things were worse under Nixon, Reagan, and Bush only because the majority of the population was onboard with their authoritarianism. In those days we had the beginning of the war on drugs, mass incarcerations, US backed death squads, flooding the cities with crack, trading arms for hostages, torture, begging of forever wars…
The population has become significantly more leftwing over the last 20 years. Even if Trump gains power again, our numbers are large enough that everything they want to do will be a brutal fight against the majority
He didn’t need to, which I think is worse. I would rather live in the timeline where Trump had to coup than the timeline where he won 49 states for reelection.
What was worse? Seriously, what? Even during secession, the president wasn’t the one causing the rift.
Uh, civil war & Lincoln assassination?
The Civil War… The bloodiest war in American history; brother fighting against brother.
https://www.harvardmagazine.com/2001/05/the-deadliest-war-html
…for a little context.
I hope that ends up being worse than this. I’m not sure it will be, but even if it is, the Civil War is a very high watermark. Things can get very very very VERY BAD without reaching that point. We don’t want to get anywhere close to that
I simply chose the most obvious episode. There are others that were worse than our current time. We haven’t even topped the JFK/RFK/MLK era.
None of those had the president selling classified documents to the enemy countries.
Last I checked we aren’t a cunt hair’s breadth from nuclear war with Russia.
All of the 80’s were like that, the cold war
I would say things were worse under Nixon, Reagan, and Bush only because the majority of the population was onboard with their authoritarianism. In those days we had the beginning of the war on drugs, mass incarcerations, US backed death squads, flooding the cities with crack, trading arms for hostages, torture, begging of forever wars…
The population has become significantly more leftwing over the last 20 years. Even if Trump gains power again, our numbers are large enough that everything they want to do will be a brutal fight against the majority
I get that Reagan laid the foundation for what became MAGA Republican Party, but was it really worse than trying a coup d’etàt to stay in power?
No. Well not for us at least. The rest of the world on the other hand…
He didn’t need to, which I think is worse. I would rather live in the timeline where Trump had to coup than the timeline where he won 49 states for reelection.