That kind of blame is useless when trying to prevent gas station robberies. You need to blame the robbery on something the people who don’t want the station to be robbed could have done different, so that they could do it differently next time. Putting the blame on the robber, in this context, won’t do any good - the robber know exactly what they could have done to prevent the robbery (which is quite simple - just refrain from doing it) , but they won’t do it because they want to rob the store.
Again, what you’re saying here is fundamentally absurd. If the robber was not to blame, then it would be unjust to punish them. This isn’t how words work, or how society works, or how anything works. You’re being completely unreasonable.
Your problem is that you’re assuming that the robber’s actions, or the Trump voter’s, is completely immutable and out of your hands, while everyone else’s are something you can control. Neither of those are true. You have no more ability to get me to to vote Biden than you do to get a Trump voter to change their vote. As usual, every argument that claims “if you don’t vote for Biden you’re supporting Trump” rests on the assumption that you’re entitled to my vote, which is simply not true.
You have no more ability to get me to to vote Biden than you do to get a Trump voter to change their vote.
Disagree. I can’t coerce neither of you, of course, and as you said I’m not entitled to anyone’s fault, but I’m still allowed to argue on and internet and try to make people see reason. And for that, I have a “leverage” on you that I don’t have on a Trump voter - the proposition that you don’t want a conservative dystopia.
(Of course, if you do want a conservative dystopia consider my entire argument null and void)
And for that, I have a “leverage” on you that I don’t have on a Trump voter - the proposition that you don’t want a conservative dystopia.
Again, wrong on both counts. I’m already not supporting a conservative dystopia so you don’t have that leverage over me. Meanwhile, there are many people who vote Trump don’t intend to support a conservative dystopia, so you would have leverage over them.
Again, what you’re saying here is fundamentally absurd. If the robber was not to blame, then it would be unjust to punish them. This isn’t how words work, or how society works, or how anything works. You’re being completely unreasonable.
Your problem is that you’re assuming that the robber’s actions, or the Trump voter’s, is completely immutable and out of your hands, while everyone else’s are something you can control. Neither of those are true. You have no more ability to get me to to vote Biden than you do to get a Trump voter to change their vote. As usual, every argument that claims “if you don’t vote for Biden you’re supporting Trump” rests on the assumption that you’re entitled to my vote, which is simply not true.
Disagree. I can’t coerce neither of you, of course, and as you said I’m not entitled to anyone’s fault, but I’m still allowed to argue on and internet and try to make people see reason. And for that, I have a “leverage” on you that I don’t have on a Trump voter - the proposition that you don’t want a conservative dystopia.
(Of course, if you do want a conservative dystopia consider my entire argument null and void)
Again, wrong on both counts. I’m already not supporting a conservative dystopia so you don’t have that leverage over me. Meanwhile, there are many people who vote Trump don’t intend to support a conservative dystopia, so you would have leverage over them.
You are not actively supporting it, but you are not making the minimal effort to oppose it either.
Why are they voting for the candidate who promises a conservative dystopia then?
You’re vastly overestimating the level of political literacy of the average American, let alone the average Trump voter.