• HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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    Then you don’t believe in democracy; you believe that fascism is fine as long as it’s your fascism.

    End of story.

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      No, actually. In fact, working under the same set of rules is distinctly NOT fascist. At all. Period.

      Fascism is rules for the out-group that are conveniently not applicable or simply not enforced on the in-group.

      So, tell me. How does playing by the SAME rules equate to fascism? Your black & white thinking is quite sad.

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        How does playing by the SAME rules equate to fascism?

        When the rules are, “the president is actually a ruler that can do whatever they want without legal consequences”, it’s a dictatorship for the ruler to do as they please rather than following democratic laws and norms, even if the opposition would use those dictatorial powers.

        It’s black and white thinking because this is black and white. Either you believe in democracy, or you don’t. It’s clear that you don’t, because you’re insisting that the president should act undemocratically.

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          and what if his one “dictator” act were to remove that ruling?

          Again, you are tiny brained and stupid if you think undue power weilded for good things is bad.

          By your logic, ANY and ALL Gods are all evil, absolutely and unquestioningly. That’s … just really, really stupid.

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            By your logic, ANY and ALL Gods are all evil, absolutely and unquestioningly. That’s … just really, really stupid.

            Uh, yes. Definitely. 100%. To very slightly paraphrase Mikhail Bakunin from “God and the State”, ‘even if god really existed, it would be necessary to abolish him’. The very concept of a god is antithetical to ideas of liberty.

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              While you’re sitting on your moral high ground, evil people are winning.

              That makes you worse than a bystander. You’re DECIDING to help the horrible people, actively, while knowing they’re horrible.

              That makes you a useful idiot. Stop being a useful idiot. This is the real world. It doesn’t matter who is most correct in an ideal world when the world is full of terrible people doing terrible things. Either stop them, or don’t.

              Whining about how unfair things are is EXACTLY NOT stopping them. Do better.

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                Do better.

                …He says, as he insists on doing the same awful thing that everyone else is doing.

                No. I reject that. Do better by being better. You can’t pick up authoritarian power and then just put it back down again. Or, that’s never happened without a leader being forced to put it back down again. Democrats can, and need to, win by being a legitimate party, rather than by being the obverse side of the same coin.

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                  No, I didn’t say, “do the same thing”

                  I said “actually DO something with the same room that has ALREADY BEEN MADE”. I made zero suggestions on specifics, so if you insist they’re the same, you are just proving how uncreative and stupid you are by insisting someone with power cannot do good things.

                  The fact you repeatedly choose to misinterpret what I have already explained several times tells me you are a complete moron not actually engaging in the discussion.

                  Keep being an ignorant fuck as to how the real world works. You clearly are vested in your ignorance. Sad.

                  People CAN do good things with power. The fact you disagree with that basic truth… is just pathetic.