The nature of bad faith is that there is no right answer. Fuck off with this.
I am not American so treat this comment with the low bystander value that it deserves.
That said, I feel like Biden needs to do a lot more.
Honestly, if I was him. I would be considering massively extreme options.
Perhaps he should address the nation and say this:
“I believe the Supreme Court has made a grievous error that threatens the Constitution, our Republic, and the freedom of the American people. They have bestowed the Presidency with powers that it should not have - powers that I as President should not have and do not want. Powers that will surely lead to our destruction.
A President is not a king. According to the Supreme Court however, I am effectively your king at this time. Based on their new law, I can in this moment, if I choose, order the execution of not just Donald Trump but every Republican in Congress. According to the Supreme Court, I can never be charged or prosecuted for these acts. The next President could order the execution of me and my family. They could execute you and your family and there would be no accountability for doing so. The next President can ensure that we never have an open and fair election again. These are not exaggerations.
It is clear that the Supreme Court intended these unprecedented legal protections to shield Donald Trump. However, as President, these powers now rest with me.
As sworn defender of the Constitution, I have taken action tonight to right this wrong and to provide a small demonstration to the American people of just how destructive these new powers are and why we can never allow the Presidency to become above the law.
As we speak, all nine Supreme Court Justices and their families have been detained and will be held without trial at an undisclosed location. Donald Trump and his family have also been detained.
The issue of Presidential Immunity will be put before the Supreme Court when they meet again on November 4th. If they find that, in fact, President’s are not above the law and do not have absolute immunity from criminal prosecution, everyone will be released. Their future, and ours, is now in their hands.
God Bless you all and God Bless America.”
Their future, and ours, is now in their hands.
And ideally, just to be extra clear, he should continue with “Should they maintain their original position, that future will be in mine.”
You typed all that with one hand?
I wish so hard this was an actual quote and not just fantasy :(
10$ if Biden drops out some states will refuse to certify an alternate ballot. Resulting in a split vote and Trump winning the election.
Personally I think this whole thing is a psyop, but if I were to humor it for a moment: he’s exactly right. There’s no reason to not vote for him over Trump, age really means nothing when it’s against the literal reincarnated Adolph Hitler. If Trump gets elected, it’s not Biden’s fault, it’s ours.
How is Donald Trump ‘literal reincarnated Adolf Hitler’?
It’s almost like that person doesn’t know the difference between “literal” and “figurative”.
Of course not. We’re discussing a politician.
It doesn’t matter what politician. It’s about them, money, and their ego.
I know its a shock but all politicians are in it for personal gain first and foremost. Your welfare is only contingent on that happening. Sooner you all accept that, the better off youll be.
Wtf do you want him to do? He loses the election in this hypothetical scenario. Do you want him to stage a coup? Refuse to leave office? How would that make him any better than dump?
His best is literally all he can do. If you feel that isnt good enough, that’s a completely separate discussion.
He could lie like a good politician does.
Step down, let someone better run
His best would be to promote a far more electable candidate and step down immediately. Continuing to stumble to the finish line and ultimately lose because of it is foolish.
Well we want him to step down now so someone else with a better chance of winning can run instead. I think this attitude of well if I lost and all the bad stuff happens it’s alright cause I tried my hardest is just infuriating cause it would be literally his fault for not stepping aside and he’s not even willing to accept blame for that.
It’s the almost same shit that happened with SCOTUS/RBG, just the presidency this time.
Exactly, this is about “Decorum” and their silly religion about following “Da Rules of Politics” it has nothing to do with the country.
People need to chill the fuck out. We all know what we are getting with either candidate. This isnt the fuckin game of thrones where some forgotten character hidding in the old woods is guna wheel out and save the fucking day. If Biden loses to Trump the only people to blame are the ones who didn’t go out to vote. If Trump loses to Biden the only people to blame are the ones who didn’t go out and vote.
I don’t give a fuck what the crackpots are guna say after the loss. There will prolly be protests, riots, panick but this will be the fucking end of the road the the shit show.
No large mass is storming the capital again. No large protests will errupt into riots. The SCOTUS is set for the foreseeable future. Noone has the fuckiny overhead to cause a ruckus muchless miss work anymore. People are too fucking exausted paying out the dickhole just to afford the 300% pandemic price increases that are here to stay.
Our parents left us for the summer with the grandparents and yeah maybe it was our first time seeing 70’s porn bush and stash, smoking a backwoods, and sipping on some moonshine that mightve just been kerosene, those of us who survived will guaranteed never be the same but we still grew older, wiser and hopefully developed a sense of fuckin regret for everything that brought us to this point. It’s a huge country with huge flaws but it doesn’t mean we can’t still be friendly neighbors who wave to each other 6 times a year.
Well the mushrooms are kicking in so ima go and try to tell which fireflies are real and which ones are just reflecting off the pond water. No idea where I was going with this.
If Biden loses to Trump the only people to blame are the ones who didn’t go out to vote. If Trump loses to Biden the only people to blame are the ones who didn’t go out and vote.
Funny, I would’ve thought that the people voting for a candidate are the ones responsible for the candidate getting elected.
Hahahah I see what ya did there. I would have lost it last night if I read this while listening to the stars shine.
Alice and Bob. Alice wins. She says that Bob can only blame himself for neglecting his training, but Bob blames Alice and says that if she wouldn’t have ran so fast, he could have won.
Who is right and who is wrong?
While it is true that Bob would have won if Alice was slow enough, it doesn’t mean that Alice should be carrying any blame here. She wanted to win the race. Bob is the one who did something wrong, because he did not want to lose and still didn’t do what he can in order to win.
If candidate A gets elected, his voters don’t need to blame themselves for getting him elected. That’s what they wanted to do. Or, at least, that’s what the realistic option they preferred over the other realistic options.
If he does something they don’t like, and it’s something that the other candidate wouldn’t have done, only then should they blame themselves for getting him into power. And even then - they should balance that against the bad things (in their opinion) candidate B would have done that candidate A wouldn’t.
But for the very act of him getting their candidate elected? They should not feel guilty for that. They should feel pride - or at least, as much pride as casting a vote into a ballot can entitle.
The ones who should feel blame are the ones who wanted candidate B elected and did not vote. They could have done something to contribute to the outcome they prefer - they could have voted. By their inaction, they have contributed to a result they did not want.
Alice and Bob. Alice wins. She says that Bob can only blame himself for neglecting his training, but Bob blames Alice and says that if she wouldn’t have ran so fast, he could have won.
This analogy has literally nothing to do with anything. What’s happening is that Bob is saying that if he loses, it’s not because of himself or because of Alice, but rather because of Charlie, who isn’t even involved.
But for the very act of him getting their candidate elected? They should not feel guilty for that. They should feel pride - or at least, as much pride as casting a vote into a ballot can entitle.
Why should they feel guilt or pride? According to your insane “logic,” they bear zero responsibility for getting the candidate they voted for elected. The reason a candidate wins, apparently, has nothing whatsoever to do with the number of votes they receive, but rather, it’s entirely the people who don’t participate in the process who determine the outcome, somehow.
Of course the number of votes matter. Not voting affects the number of votes, because if the non-voter would have vote - the number of votes would be different. The responsibility is shared between all the people who get the right to vote. No one argue that this includes the ones who actually voted - the argument is about whether this includes the non-voters.
No one argue that this includes the ones who actually voted
Is that a typo? Surely you mean that no one would argue that it doesn’t include the ones who actually voted.
Right. Sorry. Was more along the lines of “no one argues with the fact that …”, which pretty much means the same thing as your correction.
The comment I originally responded to said:
If Biden loses to Trump the only people to blame are the ones who didn’t go out to vote. If Trump loses to Biden the only people to blame are the ones who didn’t go out and vote.
So we agree then that that position is ridiculous and that no one should be claiming that.
By that standard, as long as the Republicans push a shitty candidate, voters have no choice but to pick the Democrat. Gotta do better than that if you wanna sway people’s actions on election day.
Wat.
One of the last remaining, not totally burned out hippies just told us to calm down, then yelled a bunch of boomer nonsense platitudes and gripes before admitting they’d taken mushrooms and were just screaming into the void.
Hahahaha I’m 36 and can’t stand jam bands lol
Edit: rest is spot on tho🍻
I respect it. Maybe we all need to take more psychedelics and scream nonsense into the void.
I hope your sunrise was spectacular over the water.
I like how this began to slowly make less and less sense.
It reads a little like AI generated text. Be careful thinking too much about that if you’re on shrooms though!
I’ve never taken shrooms, but I think the right phrase is… Have a good trip!
Hell yeah, brother. Teach those mushrooms who really running the show here.
Maybe he can commune with the machine elves and tell us their wisdom.
I stay away from machines while tripping ever since I lost the tip of my coworkers finger.
That was a trip. I’ll up vote you for the effort and the rollercoaster ride.
This interview really sealed in the flavor of debate failure.
Why is no one worried about the obvious decay of democracy under Biden and the DNC? 2020 was a very obvious act of anti-democracy when they messed with the prelims, no one got all bent out of shape. Just all piled on board. No one Saud a peep when they chose Harris was VP either, even though she was (is) terrible.
I can’t take anyone seriously who is crying about losing our democracy. We haven’t had democracy recently. The DNC did everything they could to prop up people who would do their bidding, and ignored the voters until the voters had no choice but to fall in line.
Never was
Yo why is Biden suddenly orange?
Oh God.
Is the spray tan contagious?
Remember when rich people all wore ridiculous powdered wigs? Well now I know how that silly kind of trend starts.
I would REALLY enjoy it if spray on Cheeto dust became the rage for the magats. Maybe someone will start airbrushing that into photos. One step closer to OompaLoompaism.
bad lighting of the set
I think your take on his perspective is a dangerous one. You sound willing to “do anything to save democracy”. That’s exactly what wild Trump supporters would say, and it’s just as patently immoral and impossible.
Where are you getting ‘do anything’ from? All OP has said is maybe the octogenerian should retrire.
Trumpets want to save their Republic. It’s rather a different thing.
And there’s no way one side has valid concerns and the other is fucking crazy.
Both sides, says one side.
I find that a very common sentiment around here. Fight fascisim with fascisim.
No, no it is NOT “just as immoral” to fight against fascists as doing a fascist takeover… What a moronic, childish, black & white take…
But it is immoral to become a fascist in order to fight against fascism. And that’s the proposal on the table; Biden should use his newly found presidential immunity to do “official” acts, like have all of the Republican leadership assassinated, or jailed in Gitmo, or I don’t even know. If Biden wins by killing democracy, then democracy is still dead, even though we have a less-evil leader at the helm.
But that’s still an ignorant black & white position. It is NOT, in fact, immoral, to do a good thing with unjustly acquired power. It is NOT immoral to suddenly have unjust power, but it is to seek it, or use it for immoral ends
There’s no way to use that power in a way that’s just though, because the power itself is unjust. Any use of that power necessarily goes against the concept of this being a nation of laws, where no person has absolute authority to enforce their will at the expense of others.
Of course, if you don’t truly believe in democracy as a concept, then the idea of using an immoral power in a “good” way seems fine.
If you don’t work by the same rules as others, they win. This is the real eorld, not a fairy tale.
Doing GOOD things is good. Period. It’s the same question as, “if you had a billion dollars”. If your answer is, “nothing because I did not earn that money”, you are nothing but a fool.
Then you don’t believe in democracy; you believe that fascism is fine as long as it’s your fascism.
End of story.
No, actually. In fact, working under the same set of rules is distinctly NOT fascist. At all. Period.
Fascism is rules for the out-group that are conveniently not applicable or simply not enforced on the in-group.
So, tell me. How does playing by the SAME rules equate to fascism? Your black & white thinking is quite sad.
His answer works in the context of the question. That’s what this is all about.
What answer?
The one in the screenshot
