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Starting the day and seeing Rees snob, grant schnapps and penny mordor are out.
Feels like a good start to the day
Oh and Liz snubbed
I figure satire articles probably aren’t allowed in the general community, but hopefully it’s ok in the megathread? This was brilliant.
https://theshovel.com.au/2024/07/05/australia-loses-shortest-time-to-5-pms-ashes/
Italy: hold my beer
They even brought in Rudd for a second go, which didn’t seem to be within the spirit of the game if I’m honest, but that’s Australia for you.
Is a particularly biting bit of satire on the way we usually hear about sports reporting.
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Reform didn’t gain many seats but came 3rd in total votes
about 1/7th of the total, or about 1/5th of Labour, Tory, and LDs combined.
Did the areas with a high Reform vote, have a higher vote turnout?
The entire C4 panel laughed at Nadine when she just couldn’t stop talking about Boris Johnson
I’m in maidstone, as blue as it gets. i’ll be watching everyone else turn red with envy
I’m not too far away and I’m hoping the area has some common sense, it’s always blue here as well. Although my wife said many votes have been lost as some people didn’t know about voter ID. Bloody Tories, it hasnt helped here though has it!
Sorry mate, still blue by about 1500 odd votes.
tbf Helen Grants majority has been significantly reduced. i can take solace in that at least
NW Cambridgeshire here, it’s never been anything but Blue since it’s formation, I still doubt it would change.
That really is a razer thin win. congrats
Looks like Reform got a lot of votes despite not getting many seats. Those nasty cunts aren’t going to shut up about this for the next 4 years.
Not really a bad thing. Reform plus the Lib Dems attacking fptp. Means both right and right of centre. (Pretty much the only views available under fptp ). Will have strong options for voters to switch vote and split the fptp possibility of a win for them. This may end up the final option that forces PR of some form.
Honestly, as close as both sides are. It’s the first time both the government and the opposition has had parties truly risking a future split in the vote.
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After seeing the first few results come in, my main worry is how Starmer’s Labour will react to the rise of Reform. If Labour cannot visibly begin to turn things around, and they also fail to effectively counter the building populist undercurrent, we could be heading for some dark times.
We will have to see what exactly Starmer’s Labour will actually do once it has power.
Two Tories defected to them, and neither of them were standing for election this time, it was just a gesture against Sunak (although I do wish Labour had told them to fuck off).
And as for the S*n, they just put their weight behind whoever is going to win.
Labour and Starmer are far from perfect, but I think they will be far better, even if just from a competence and basic human decency standpoint.
And as for the S*n, they just put their weight behind whoever is going to win.
I was a bit surprised the S*n did switch to Labour. From what I’ve heard there still a grudge amongst Murdoch and his minions towards Starmer, due the prosecutions he pursued as DPP during the phone hacking scandal.
I wouldn’t read too much into the Sun endorsement. Murdoch hates to be wrong, and they would have come out in favour much earlier in the campaign if they were actually ideologically aligned.
I don’t want to see Reform get any seats really when it’s filled with people like this.
They’re just a live action version of the Daily Mail. They only believe immigrants and trans people are a problem because Farage and his crew tell them so. Otherwise I bet those groups of people have barely any impact on their daily lives whatsoever.
I’m watching the ITV feed on YouTube. Dunno what other people actually from the UK would recommend because I don’t really know the British media landscape.
They’re currently discussing the issue of Scottish independence. I must say, I find it very frustrating, including from Nicola Sturgeon. As a complete outsider, it would seem to me the number 1 reason in favour of a second referendum is very simple: “you’ll not be allowed back into the EU if you secede from the UK” was a major campaign point during the first referendum. And then 2 years later England voted to leave the EU anyway. How is Sturgeon not bringing this up?
They bring that up regularly, but it’s a false equivalence. At the time of the independence vote it was absolutely true to claim that voting No was true best way to stay in the EU. There was no expectation, none, from anyone that Brexit was on the way. So, at the time, if Europe was the issue then voting to stay in the UK was the logical choice to make.
As for now - well, Swinney (and before him Sturgeon herself) was talking in terms of winning a majority of seats being a mandate for opening independence talks. That’s clearly nonsense, since a majority of seats is possible with a fairly small plurality of votes. And, it’s looking like it’s a moot point anyway, since the SNP seems to have taken a right good kicking this time round.
So Sturgeon is probably not bringing this up tonight because she’d look ridiculous to do so given the (apparent) results in Scotland tonight. If this was a referendum on independence as she and Swinney have suggested, then the result would appear to be a solid No.
According to the conversation tonight, not even a majority of seats, but a plurality.
Anyway you’re absolutely right that given the tact that they had chosen it’s hard to read today’s projected result as anything other than a failure. But I was speaking more about when the conversation turned away from the direct outcome of today’s results and more towards the general longer-term future prospects for independence. I don’t recognise any of their other panellists (pic attached below), but the guy on Sturgeon’s left (camera right) and to a lesser extent the other panellists were making reference to the fact that the previous referendum failed and how no future government would ever allow another referendum (with the exception of if Labour relied on the SNP to form a minority government, which was thought possible a year ago). That’s when it would have seemed obvious to me for Sturgeon to point out the false promise that led to the result in 2014.
I’m watching the ITV feed on YouTube. Dunno what other people actually from the UK would recommend because I don’t really know the British media landscape.
ITV will be just fine. The Beeb’s coverage is usually pretty definitive.
Unfortunately BBC doesn’t seem to be live streamed on YouTube. Or if it does, it didn’t turn up in my search. I was choosing between ITV, Sky News (I know Sky in the UK isn’t quite the same as Sky here in Aus, but the stink of that name is very hard for me to shake off), something called “TalkTV”, and two separate feeds from “The Times and The Sunday Times”. Oh, and CNN, but that’s just silly.
It blows my mind that Tory candidates get even a single vote. Who’s voting for them?!
And reform, its bloody terrifing seeing them get so much support
Yup. They’ve been coming second in most results so far. Not sure how much of it is a protest vote against the big two or people like their policies.
Only one opposed to the trend. So long while before we can be sure.
But if it continures. Lab holds having huge reform vote. But Tory loss them being 3rd. It would support most Tories, only voting reform when they know Tories won’t win. But hesitating when a reform win is possible.
Be interesting to see if that continues.
Labour 5 for 5 so far! I’m no statistician but if this trend continues…
4, 5 now are labour holds. So does not show a real change yet.
11% swing in these seats def indicates a win. Just.
It will be interesting to see if the exit polls are correct in labour gains having a larger swing.
This is as late as I can stand. I’ll check back in the morning for the final scores. If it was anything resembling a closer election I might have stayed up. I’m hoping the exit poll has over estimated the tories and reform, with a few extra opposition parties.
That’s how I’m feeling. I need my kip and some of the major heads I’d want to see fall won’t be toppling until much later.
Rise and shine.
Reform only on 4 instead of ~17 from the exit poll and the greens got 4 seats instead of 2! Happy days.
I would be a bit worried about proportional representation for parties like reform as they seem to have come second in a larger number of constituencies.
yeah the uk is royally fucked because starmer is absolutely going to lurch hard right on culture and immigration to respond to reform.
With the projected majority, he doesn’t have to lurch anywhere. It’s the Tories that are going to feel forced to get nastier and it could be the final nail in their coffin. JRM has already been on suggesting they’ve neglected their “core”, which seems to be racists.
Agree with both points here but wrt. the possibility Kier lurching to the right I particularly agree. Left wing pals on whatsapp and folks online are being way too pessimistic about the prospects of the labour government not delivering left wing policies. Having played it safe during the campaign, Kier has a majority which gives him way more latitude to implement whatever policies make sense.
I wish people could be able to take the W and enjoy it for one night without cynicism or pessimism.
Just seen Count Binface arrive for the count, shit just got real.
I’ve just switched over to watch Sky News’ feed on YouTube. The allow chat, which for a serious news organisation is absolutely wild to me.
And the chatters are absolutely insane. Not in a good way. There’s no attempt to discuss anything, just people spamming “💙💙 REFORM IS RISING 💙💙” and “🟥🟥 Labour Forever 🟥🟥🟥🟥”. And weirdest of all, many variations on “netherite helmet trim”.
Wtf does netherite helmet trim mean?
the proper way to watch youtube chat is to click on the x.
Ha! Ok that got a serious laugh from me.
But honestly, other YouTube live streams I’ve watched have actually had really great chats. Lots of fun discussion with other chatters or between chat and the streamer. I wouldn’t expect a news org to be engaging with the chat themselves, but I would have hoped that chat could talk amongst themselves in a civil manner. I’m kinda disappointed how they’re not.
i’m actually only half serious since there are a lot of channels i watch that are great communities too. just not the political ones :)
Minecraft.
And the chatters are absolutely insane. Not in a good way. There’s no attempt to discuss anything, just people spamming “💙💙 REFORM IS RISING 💙💙”
Reform have an online army that swarms comment threads. Not sure how many of them are based in Russia.
Minecraft
Oh yeah I worked that out thanks to Google. But I don’t get the connection to the election, or why so many people were spamming it.
Maybe because of the fake Farage playing minecraft videos?
Honestly not very sure what else it would be.
Trolls I suppose.
An unsatisfying answer, even if it is likely correct.
Memecraft
