• Shadehawk@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    I’m sorry but should a church housing a political rally and supporting a political figure not be all sorts of illegal if theyre tax exempt?

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      The claim was that it was a roundtable discussion that Trump was a part of.

      But of course, every Trump public appearance is a Trump rally.

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          I’m sure there are exceptions for when you have to cover up your extramarital affairs with pornstars, when you reeeeeeally wanna keep some top-secret documents for personal use, when you make your money by defrauding others or just feel like keeping people in permanent fear so that they turn to you for salvation. After all, the constitution, which he has very much read, says that he can do absolutely everything with absolute impunity.

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        A claim that isn’t true and made knowingly is called a lie.

        But also any time his lips move and words are produced, they are also called lies.

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        So you want god to do the work, that you’re supposed to do? Do we live in a democracy or a theocracy?

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            The implication of GP is that it’s our job to turn Trump to ash (and I think that’s the intended interpretation).

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            It’s meant for both of these statements. Do we expect god to turn trump into ash or is it our job to build a good society?

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              “God helps those who help themselves”

              “God works through us”

              “God chooses imperfect vessels.”

              Sorry officer it wasn’t me who threw gasoline on Trump and lit him on fire. God just works in mysterious ways, ya know?

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                "God gave me a high powered sniper crossbow for a reason, officer. I just made sure His Will was done by executing 5 obviously criminal SCOTUS “justices.”

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          If the USA is a country that is a democracy, can be answered only by a tentative yes for now. There are too many things wrong with the voting system and disenfranchisement and systemic failures around court appointments for a definitive yes.

          Apart from that, we live in a world where gods don’t exist, but not everyone agrees on that.

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    Funny if you to believe any of these clowns have seriously been in a church before.

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      “In the ordinary moral universe, the good will do the best they can, the worst will do the worst they can, but if you want to make good people do wicked things, you’ll need religion.”

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        Problem is that if you even read the Gospel of Luke or even Matthew alone, it basically already contradicts a lot of Trumpian rhetoric

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            Nice way to cherrypick the verse and remove context 🤦

            It’s part of a wider account of Thomas literally seeing the risen Christ in front of him and still not believing. So Thomas insists that he touches His wounds. And this is simply Jesus’ response blessing him who believes what he saw with evidence, but also blessing those who haven’t witnessed the resurrection and risen Christ.

            So He blessed two groups of believers: Those who critically investigate the resurrection narrative, and those who didn’t feel the need to.

            I, personally, fit into the former category.

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              Nice way of accusing me of removing context while doing it yourself.

              Assuming that what is written is true - and not just a folk tale like the Little Red Riding Hood, which is more probable - and that this specific God exists and became his own son and then died and got resurrected.

              If we take into account the context that this text has been written several hundreds of years after it happened, anyone alive back then and also today can *only* be one of those who believe without seeing, because we can’t go back in time to experience it ourselves like Thomas or the other apostles did.

              So, we can’t be the one “who believes what he saw with evidence”. And we can only be “those who haven’t witnessed the resurrection and risen Christ”. And this is one of the fundamentals of any religion, but especially Christianity where you have to believe in Christ otherwise you will go to hell.

              There is also the subtle nuance that if there is evidence then you don’t need to believe, you just know.

              With this context, at least I come to the conclusion that “religion demands you to go against evidence and just believe”, otherwise you will go to hell, which nobody wants.

      • fah_Q@lemmy.ca
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        Trump people only “identify as religious” they aren’t the terrible people that traditional attend and hate. Lol I’m sure there is a slight overlap in the Venn Diagram.

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          I live in the Bible belt and can tell you: the evangelical megachurches are chock full of Christian nationalists.

          Sure, there are factions in the GOP that don’t really care about religion , but the SCOTUS wouldn’t have overturned Roe if the hardcore religious zealots didn’t work for decades to get it done.

          The protesters at abortion clinics were bussed there by the churches a lot of the time; they’re not outliers here. They are the engine that runs the party here in Texas.

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      The Satanic Temple come off as solid Democrats if not anarchocommunists or something. If it was a Satanic house of worship, it could possibly be the Church Of Satan (who, at least in Anton LaVey’s time, were dominance-oriented Ayn Rand assholes philosophically indistinguishable from today’s Republican Christianity), or if they’ve mellowed in their old age, the Order of Nine Angles (who, conveniently, are also neo-Nazis).

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        The Satanic Temple stands against pretty much everything Trump and his cultists stand for, as well as the big money Democrat establishment.

        Definitely not ancoms.

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    Well, I can see many people in there who are not perfect representatives of the Arian Race (people whose hair is not blond enough or whose eyes are brown rather than blue), so they should be counted as black, thus making this a mixed race audience, most of which are black.

    /s

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    I mean just because the church is black - it might have be a satanist church and that’s why they painted it black - doesn’t mean that the people inside have to be black.

    • I am wondering if the parish at this church is majority white normally anyway. I had a friend in high school whose family went to the evangelical church in town and they were white. He invited me one time, and I was surprised that there was only about 3 black people in attendance. I expected it to be mostly black people because that’s how this denomination has been presented and stereotyped in media.

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        What media? There are non-denominational evangelical churches that are predominantly * one race, some are a fair mix.

        Also, what is up with the red shirt guy?

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            I was also very confused reading your previous comment, because of all the different names for black churches, “evangelical” is not a word I’d pick to describe them.

            Also, I think it’s important to clarify that the various black “baptist” denominations are very much not the same thing as “Southern Baptist”!

            Maybe the word you were looking for was something like “gospel.”

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            The kind of church with a big-ass choir and does a lot of high energy singing

            Could be any, in a large enough area. AME Zionist, Baptist, Holiness, Methodist, noon-denom, pick one. I didn’t šay Catholic because I’ve never visited a mostly black Catholic Church, but I went to a Catholic Church with a black priest. But high energy singing, though.

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        If you look at the photos of the church at other times, you see a whopping TWO white people … total … and it appears they’re with their spouses and mixed race kiddos.

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      not really

      Traditionally, men should remove their hats during prayers or hymns, whereas women might choose to keep their decorative hats on. However, this practice can vary greatly depending on the denomination and local customs. Observing other attendees and being aware of the norms can help you navigate this aspect with grace. src

      given this wasn’t even a service, but just using the space as a venue, i will say that the hats are the least disgusting thing happening in the image

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      None of the people wearing a hat in that picture would be able to spell etiquette without a K. They love their Ks.

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      99% of “normal etiquette” is just a bunch of outdated rules that make no sense. If even the “return to tradition” crowd is starting to feel comfortable wearing hats to church, it may be a sign that nature is healing.

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        Not if the hat wearer bears the mark of the devil on their forehead

        We don’t need to see the MAGA mark on their forehead to know its there. The hat on top of it already says MAGA.

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        I have no love for his staff, but why is sitting on a couch with your shoes off bad, especially in a high-stress environment?

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            That would be a different couch from the ones I’ve ever owned.

            Sitting sideways on a couch reading a book is quite comfortable and plenty of people (myself included) don’t wear shoes or socks at home, especially in the summer.

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    He meant black as in its painted black not that it’s predominantly attended by black people.