I dislike LD because it’s too hyper.
It does get less hyper as it goes on, but only to a point.
I dislike Discovery, not true to Gene’s vision.
It stopped being sci-fi and started being fantasy when they started with magical tardigrades and “time bugs”. The rest plays like a space marines series.
what about the special needs holograms that fail if you blink at them in the wrong way. What the hell was that about?
This is what happens when a stupid person tries to write a clever character. There’s no actual intelligence it’s all just stupid magic loopholes that our character knows for some random reason that makes no actual logical sense.
Gene would have loved Discovery because it let characters say “fuck” and there’s nothing and no one Gene hated more than the censors.
I dislike Discovery because it focuses on one main character instead of the entire crew.
Oh no, am I gonna hate Discovery? That sounds decidedly un-star trek.
Michael Burnham is somehow more valuable than everyone else in Starfleet when it comes to saving the universe. Then saving it again. Then going to the future and saving it again. It’s a bummer cause there are some great characters but no one does deus ex like Michael and yeah it does not feel like Trek
That’s kind of exactly what I don’t like about it and part of why I call it a “space marines” series. Gene’s vision is of a future where different life forms come together and work under a unified code and for the greater good. It’s not about one person rising to power and being the hero.
It feels like they are trying to graft the Star Wars theme onto Star Trek with hand wavey magical “forces” that don’t have even the most tenuous link to science, and singular heroes that make anything that’s worth happening happen. The original series at least tried to give a nod to the scientific consensus and then try to extrapolate it out.
Thankfully TOS never did any fantasy stuff like galactic barriers, Trelane, massive green hands in space, or Abraham Lincoln. That wouldn’t have been true to Gene’s vision.
I’m not a fan of Disco either, but tardigrades and time bugs are really low on my list of complaints. Star Trek did lots of even whackier stuff over the last 60 years (or did everyone forget the “Fun with DNA” episodes of the 90s?). In fact, that time bug episode was probably the best 32nd century Disco episode. Which is a low bar, but anyway.
I guess my issues with stuff like the tardigrade, time bug, spore drive, etc. is that it’s just taking something from earth and putting it in space and saying it’s the “space version”. It’s so lazy and stupid. At least TOS usually had some interesting reasoning behind why these things were happening or they were different enough from anything on earth that at least they felt novel and innovative.
Detest, Voyager, missing/extra pips.
Notes: WHERE IS HARRY’S PROMOTION?!
This also grinds my gears, especially after so many officers die during the course of the series. So many junior officer ranks are time-defined promotions (in real life) and even if they weren’t time based, slots opened up due to all the people dying.
The one where Kirk dies. I don’t think I need to explain further.
Which Kirk and which show/movie where he dies? He’s died at least 4 times in 3 different universes.
The one with Picard too. I forgot the name.
They killed Kirk in Picard, too?!
Lol he means the first TNG movie.
I mean, I know streaming shows seem to be getting shorter and shorter with each season, that doesn’t mean it was a movie!
Kirk didn’t die in that movie. It looked like he did, but he can’t have. He wasn’t alone.
Oh my
No man is an island
I have a problem with the Kelvin timeline. Specifically how they depicted the Kobayashi Maru sequence. No, I don’t care if Spock programmed it. My issue is that Kirk’s behavior stinked. He straight up cheated, but even worse, he was smug about it. That didn’t show leadership potential at all. That was conduct unbecoming of an officer.
I’d always had it in my head that Kirk simply disagreed with the test philosophically. It’s a simple scene to set up. Kobayashi Maru tests officers to see how they deal with a losing path in a simulation of a deterministic universe. But Kirk doesn’t believe in fate. He believes in a quantum universe, where infinite possibilities spring from the vacuum every instant. In my mind, Kirk wouldn’t simply reprogram the hostile ships’ shields to drop at an exact moment, then just line up his shots. That’s still determinism! Instead he would subtly reprogram the simulation to account for random chance, and depend upon his skill to react to whatever the scenario might throw at him. Examining his changes to the code would reveal not a cheater, but a leader with a fundamental difference in personal philosophy for approaching the Universe.
That scene would have made me lose all respect for Kirk if I regarded it as canon, so I can’t. I would never follow a leader like that, no matter his supposed tactical brilliance. No disrespect to any of the actors. It’s just bad writing. Beyond that, I’ve got no problem with Kelvin beyond minor quibbles.
I understand where you’re coming from.
Another way to look at it though, is Kirk wanted to draw attention to the ridiculousness of the test. He was making a bold statement that his intention wasn’t to “cheat” but to show the test was stupid by rubbing it in their faces. He was saying if you’re going to fix it so I can’t win, I’m going to fix it so no one can lose.
I have my issues with the Kelvin timeline. And to be honest I think the writing could have been better in that scene. But I would prefer they replace the ending of movie two. The reactor sacrifice thing went away past just a nod to previous movies into lazy writing. And the blood thing created SO many future plot holes…
Yeah Into Darkness was just a bad concept all around. Just a bad idea to remake a good movie in general. And then Star Trek II revolved around a villain from Kirk’s past coming back for revenge. Kirk and Khan never met before in the Kelvin timeline, so there really isn’t anything there. It was destined to be a a half-assed remake at the concept stage, and they should’ve scrapped it and done pretty much anything else as soon as someone suggested bringing back Khan.
Still it’s not the worst Trek movie.
This is how I see it. Reprogramming the test was a protest, and protests should be loud and obvious. A subtle change that made the test just barely passable would have just looked like academic dishonesty.
Yeah the more thought about it, you also can’t compare “canon” Kirk to the Kelvin Kirk. Expecting one that grew up without a dad to act the same…
The Kobayashi Maru sequence is a perfect summation of everything wrong with Kelvin Kirk. He’s basically a fratboy. He just lies and cheats his way through problems by the seat of his pants with no forethought or consideration. Actual TOS Kirk is an incredibly smart, educated and thoughtful leader who constantly questions his own beliefs and motivations. He understands the burden and the cost of leadership, and always strives to meet that burden, and he truly believes in the Federations mission to be build a better world for all.
This is why I love Strange New Worlds. SMW Chris Pike is, genuinely, the best version of Kirk in any Star Trek. Smart, thoughtful, emotionally intelligent, cares deeply about his crew, but also funny and likable. And, when need be, kind of a badass.
good of you to include pike’s hair as a complaint, that way we know who to space
Wait, people don’t like Faith of the Heart?
People detest Faith of the Heart
People with no faith of the heart
This needs a love checkbox. Because, seriously, I love Pike’s hair, and I really need a place to complain about it.
That’s a different form
…of love
Which Trek has too much chest hair?
You tell me!
That’s not too much. We only get shirtless Picard like twice…!
i guess
We’re still in not enough territory
I went to a celtic festival earlier today and there was a (male presenting) person in a dress you would expect to see on a docudrama about Jack the Ripper.
Inside this lady of the evening dress was the hariest person I have ever seen in a dress. Take that dark dense patch in the center of rikers chest, put that all over the exposed breast area, the upper back, arms, huge beard, very dense hairy legs. And all of it fiery orange.
That might be approaching “too much” territory, but I gotta say, what we have seen on star trek so far has been alopecia by comparison.
I dislike everything that isn’t Voyager because not enough Neelix. Also, I’m going to look over the comic sans because of the far greater sin of using Papyrus.
Is Phlox perhaps Neelix enough?
“Excessive lens flare”
Star Wars: The Force Awakens:
LMAO
Hair (not Pike)
Hair (Pike)
“I get too wet looking at Pike”
Other: Not enough Klingon boy band
Specify if comic sans! You got me!
We’re calling out Comic Sans, but not Papyrus?
I am not sure I like TOS because hair (pike)
By far Pike’s most noticeable feature in TOS.