More efficient manufacturing, falling battery costs and intense competition are lowering sticker prices for battery-powered models to within striking distance of gasoline cars.

  • AbidanYre@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    car from the 50s can still travel the same distance on a full tank

    How much have you spent in maintenance over the last 70 years to even keep it running?

    an electric car from the early 2010s can barely get around a car park

    Not even remotely true.

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      5 months ago

      Assuming you need a new battery every 10 years or so considering that’s their usual lifespan you’re looking at spending $70,000-$140,000 at 10,000 - 20,000 per battery according to a quick Google search. Do you really think that someone is spending $2,000 a year just making sure a tiny roadster that was designed to be repaired with a spanner on a driveway can run?

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        5 months ago

        Again, not true.

        https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a31875141/electric-car-battery-life/

        If the battery is at less than 70% at 8 years, they’ll replace it free. My 10 year old Volt is still doing close enough to what it was new that I can’t tell the difference. It’s not like the battery just goes poof and turns into smoke after 10 years.

        A tiny roadster from the 50s is what, an MG, Fiat, maybe a Triumph? Any one of them are probably spending more time getting repaired than actually driving.

        Keeping a car from the 50s running today isn’t just tightening a bolt here and there anymore. Even sourcing the parts is likely going to be non-trivial at this point.

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        I read a report that Model 3 LFPs were down to around $7k. CATL claims te be under $5k this year for a brand new pack good for about a 200 mile range. Analysts predict under $3k for that pack in 2025. This is even ignoring the potential to remanufacture an existing pack, reusing the parts of the packs that don’t degrade, and potentially reclaiming some value for recycling the cells. LFPs also have more durability, so likely to be a 15 year workable lifespan for most drivers.

        This is a rapidly evolving situation, with prices going down dramatically for battery. If it lands at less than $5k for a 15 year maintenance item, then that’s even less than I spent keeping my 15 year old Acura in working order toward the end, ignoring the extra costs I had to spend on the gas compared to the EV charging. About half the gas cars I’ve owned have been a money pit for maintenance, and the other half haven’t been super cheap either. The EVs have been much lower maintenance, though admittedly the maintenance cost will be high years down the line, but I wager in aggregate it’ll be cheaper than the maintenance costs of my traditional cars have been.