• explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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        If that were the case, then the banks would all be publicly owned now.

        Bailouts aren’t a little bit of socialism or “crony” capitalism - it’s just capitalism. The banks own the factors of production, bought most representatives, and effectively bailed themselves out.

        The banks need to die, every single one of them yes all of them.

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          I think what they’re saying is that we subsidize losses for the rich, but for citizens it’s rugged individualism. Bootstraps and such. The tax dollars are always there to bail out companies or to fight wars, but not to serve the needs of the people.

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      It’s not possible.

      By design, of course.
      For those who won’t look it up the takeaway is that when a massively popular, actually left leaning candidate makes it far enough in the race and poses a real threat to the establishment despite the hurdles it has already put in their way in the form of the media and state dictated education that sow hatred of anything remotely socialist, the media will then go in to overdrive to stop them from getting in to power by any means possible.
      And it works. Again - because of a combination of no education for critical thinking against the establishment, and a media that serves it.
      It’s one of the ways in which the system is rigged to always work in favour of the rich and powerful, and why elections are nothing but a charade (especially in a monarchy) - they will never let us have an equitable and just society that works for all of its members, they have too much to lose, and they would kill us all off in a blink if it protected their status (they already are). The time for fighting back in self defence is long overdue…

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        Your comment getting downvoted is pretty dumb, he is absolutely not a socialist. He hasn’t expressed the desire to abolish capitalism and replace it with socialism. He just wants “humane” capitalism. Wanting public healthcare/social safety/a welfare state doesn’t make you a socialist. He’s fine private industry as long as they’re regulated enough/as long as the workers are treated well.

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      5 months ago

      The way Corbyn is spoken about even by some Labour party MPs is grotesque, as if he led some evil regime.

      Just shows how politicians with principles and integrity are treated.

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      Australia elected someone pretty close to a socialist once. Not really a socialist, but far more left wing than anyone America or Britain has elected in living history, and far more left than anyone Australia has had since.

      America organised a coup against his Government. And like, yes, we all know America loves doing coups in foreign countries. But usually it’s countries most Americans would perceive as “third world”. Either a political enemy or a neutral irrelevancy. (To be very clear, I’m not saying they are irrelevant, but that most Americans would think of them as not very significant.) But in 1975 they did it to one of their ostensible closest allies. Because he was too left wing for Ford, Kissinger, and William Colby. (Side note, in looking up who was the director of the CIA at the time, I discovered that Colby was succeeded in that role by…George Bush Sr. They elect literal spies for president??) And because he threatened to close down their spy base.

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      Watching all that transpire over years was so heartbreaking. It’s such a rare thing to get a genuinely good politician.