• Saledovil@sh.itjust.works
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    2 years ago
    • The first two want to consolidate power first. Typical capitalist move, get to the top, then pull the ladder up behind you.
    • The third guy has a sensible idea.
    • The ‘ban Liberalism’ guy probably can’t define Liberalism.
    • The ‘ban factory farms’ guy has a good idea.
    • The ‘ban cars’ crowd I sorta agree with. Cars should only be used in rural areas, where public transit is not viable.
    • The anti-Israel guy, wants to ban countries from solidarizing with Israel. An inherently pro-war take.
    • Historical Revisionism, I had to look up who Adrian Zenz is, and Zenz is critical of the Uyghur genocide. So yeah, Historical Revisionism just means ‘anything I don’t like’ to this commenter.

    Edit: Changed ‘urban’ to ‘rural’ as pointed out by @goat.

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      The third guy has a sensible idea.

      Yeah, though that’s going to be insanely costly for the government. Best solution is offering a cheap, readily available public version and then the premium services.

      The ‘ban factory farms’ guy has a good idea.

      It is! But ironically, animals are and have always been treated the worst in communist states.

      The ‘ban cars’ crowd I sorta agree with. Cars should only be used in urban areas, where public transit is not viable.

      You mean rural?

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        The point of banning private versions of essential services is to make it so wealthy people have to use the same public version as poor people.

        If a private alternative exists that rich people can use instead, the people who have the most power in society, then they have little incentive to provide a good public version.

      • Saledovil@sh.itjust.works
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        You mean rural? Yes, rural. Thanks for pointing that out. Yeah, though that’s going to be insanely costly for the government. Best solution is offering a cheap, readily available public version and then the premium services. Well, services naturally cost money. But yes, allowing private services would also be good. I’m just worried that the public version falls too far behind in terms of quality provided. As in, politicians see that the private version is only a bit more expensive than the public one, and therefore slash funding for the public version, causing the public quality to decrease, after which the private provider see higher demand, and then increase prices.

    • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com
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      Banning “all” factory farms is a terrible idea without suitable replacements. There’s a reason starvation has decreased world-wide over the past 100 years. There was a really good article posted yesterday about the challenges here.

      Agree with the animal part, though.

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        From the context, he appears to be referring strictly to factory farming of animals. From an environmental and ethical position, it’s hard for me to argue against that. I eat meat, but I’m also aware of how awful conditions are on those farms, and just how far definitions of “ethical” are bent in order to define them as ethical. I think that we need to change culture so that people don’t view meat as central to a diet anymore, or eating large quantities of meat as being symbolic of having ‘made’ it

        I also think that we likely need some kind of nationalized (maybe even international?) rotation for all crops, because the system that we’re using of heavy fertilization, etc. is depleting our soil badly, resulting in crops with less nutrition than we were getting just 50 years ago. We’re already in the beginning stages of climate collapse, and monoculture is making that significantly worse.

    • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
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      2 years ago

      It’s because a non trivial portion of them are legitimately Poe’s law trolls and the tankies are completely blind to it.