• FatCat@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    6 months ago

    Silly strawman caricature of reasonable argumentation.

    “Well I think its OK for me to beat my wife, so you shouldn’t mind me doing so.”

    Quite different in this case, yet it follows a similar logic. Things can unaffect you diferectly, yet still be wrong.

    Using the obscene ice cream example is a unsophisticated attempt to discredit this line of reasoning.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      6 months ago

      “Well I think its OK for me to beat my wife, so you shouldn’t mind me doing so.”

      • Husband: I consent

      • Jesus: I consent

      • Wife: I don’t

      Isn’t there someone you forgot to ask?

      Things can unaffect you diferectly, yet still be wrong.

      What would you consider a hospital staffer refusing to provide medical aid to a woman in the middle of a deadly miscarriage, because the hospital administrator is afraid of being sued or arrested for performing an abortion?

      • FatCat@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        6 months ago

        What would you consider a hospital > > staffer refusing to provide medical aid to a woman in the middle of a deadly miscarriage, because the hospital administrator is afraid of being sued or arrested for performing an abortion?

        In that situation it is clearly wrong not to help, because in the case of a miscarriage the fetus would die also presumably. And many Christians would agree.

        But for cases of no risk to the mother the morality of facilitating an abortion can be more dubious. The conservatives certainly have a strong position, even if I disagree with it.

    • GeneralVincent@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      6 months ago

      Ok so let’s use a real example. Many Christians are anti-LGBT based on their interpretations of the Bible and their moral beliefs.

      So should we ban homosexuality?

      Also your argument is just as flawed. The average person has a moral objection to domestic violence. This comic is referring to when there’s a difference between the average person’s moral beliefs and the religious ones, especially the radical zealot’s belief

      • FatCat@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        6 months ago

        So should we ban homosexuality?

        No because its not morally wrong.

        In the case of abortion the conservatives have some strong arguments even though I am in favour of it.

        • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          6 months ago

          No because its not morally wrong

          Morals are subjective. In someone else’s mind homosexuality could be immoral, and this has been the case historically.

          In civilized world laws are not (or should not) be based on “morality”, but to ensure level and fair playing ground for all people. This includes not restricting persons way of expressing their sexuality as long as it doesn’t negatively affect others (ie. Rape, pedophilia, zoophilia, etc)

          Of course we don’t live in that kind of utopia but I hope we’re getting better slowly