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>fantasy setting has magic and flying creatures
>still using horses as main transportation
No.250341651
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>setting has nuclear energy
>still using coal as main energy source
setting has lemmy
still using 4chan
There are positives and negatives to both platforms. Lemmy has an abundance of information about Linux and memes about Star Trek but misses out on literature discussion and completely lacks the ability to recognize sarcasm. 4chan is a concentrated discussion hub where every interaction is seen and evaluated, but occasionally it hosts a slight hint of bigotry.
Fall off a horse -> dust yourself off and get back on. There’s a whole idiom about how falling off horses is a frustrating but ultimately minor inconvenience.
Fall off a gryphon -> you are dead.
Superman was paralyzed from falling off a horse. It can be way more than an inconvenience.
Setting has electric cars
Car enthusiasts of the setting are fanatical about petrol cars instead
I bought my 30 year old car 15 years ago for $2000 and it still runs well and hasn’t needed too much in the way of repair. Find me an electric that can do the same and I’ll make the jump in a second.
Find a 1994 EV in good nick? I can find you 2024 internal combustion cars that won’t last 15 years; I can find you a 2024 EV whose manufacturer says will last a million miles (or maybe that’s the 2025 version), that’s 33.3 thousand miles a year for 30 years. But that manufacturer lies.
Did your car claim a greater than 30 year low maintenance life when new? Is its lifespan typical of the model?
Can we take your position as “has an outlier lifespan car, doesn’t want to replace it”? My last car I sold was 20 years old and had seats with worn out cloth (and exposed padding) and broken plastic trim around its adjustment controls
Nissan leaf battery replacements were a minor repair when the first of those needed them. They got much better than new batteries for pretty cheap
A quick look at the used market shows me a shit ton of nissan leafs going for $1500 to $3000. I wouldn’t be able to go to the next town over with one, because it would die on my return trip. 10s of miles of range on a full charge according to the listings.
Granted, ANY half-decent car in the used market goes for a lot more than what I could get when I bought mine, but the bashing over the head that some people do about “go electric, or you’re the problem” isn’t feasible for most people.
I mean you are part of the problem. Objectively. It’s not entirely your fault as your country should have better public transport so you don’t need a car for everyday use. The prices of EVs are possibly too high as well. Don’t pretend though that driving an old car isn’t harming the planet. If you really want something old get a diesel car and run it from bio diesel or vegetable oil. Might even save you money that way if you are lucky.
I doubt my old car rotting in a junk yard is much better than the little bit of driving I do, never mind the bullshit of pinning the death of the planet on me when private jet owners create vastly more emissions that I do. I can save a lot more money NOT replacing my perfect functional car with a gamble on the shit heaps in my local area. I may be “part of the problem,” but I’m a very small droplet in the ocean.
> Setting has public transport
> Setting is still full of carbrained petrolheads
Both of these can be explained with the same reasoning.
Capitalism!
Didn’t know that capitalism made people blow the miniscule dangers of nuclear power out of proportion and create irrational fear
The by now miniscule risk of meltdown is not the only downside to nuclear power compared to renewables.
There’s the fact that a nuclear power plant takes a decade or more to build and make operational and we need to replace fossil fuel energy production NOW. In comparison, gigantic solar arrays and wind turbine parks can be ready in a matter of months.
Then there’s the nuclear waste. There’s been discovered one truly forever safeplace to store it in the world, deep down into a mountain in Finland (afair, could be Norway). Even if we (unreasonably) assume that it can all fit there, transporting all the radioactive waste of a world reliant on nuclear energy to Finland would be an environmentally ruinous nightmare.
Lastly, nuclear reactors need cool water to function efficiently and safely. Global warming, the very thing proponents say they’re the best solution for, is making nuclear plants less effective and less safe.
In conclusion, renewables are by far the best solution, not nuclear energy.
A more accurate analogy would be along the lines of having jets and helicopters in the world but still using cars or trains as the main form of transportation.
Not sure how it applies, when trains are the superior form of transportation
You would just not believe the regulatory burden of maintaining magical creature flying safety regime too.
You drop a simple glove off directing and 30min later, boom. You’ve got a gnome commission setting up barriers around it and paperwork for weeks to come…
Dystopian Fantasy; only the rich and powerful have access to magic.
Edit: Bright would actually be that, now that I think about it. 🤔
Sounds like mistborn nobles
There’s a lot of hidden costs and infrastructure needed for magical flying beasts. Not to mention limited capacity. Little can compete with the horse drawn cart when it comes to capacity for price though.
But what if cart drawn by flying pony?
I could never ask Fluttershy to haul things for me. At that point, I would start carrying things for her
YEAH!
But also Equestria is r63-land.
Boats beat out horse drawn carts by an insane amount.
It’s why trade hubs and major cities were practically always on a major river and/or in a favourable location for a port.
Yep, not having a bunch of your trade going to feeding and caring for your horses makes a huge difference.
Someone’s never owned a boat.
There are 3 idioms that come to mind.
A boat is a hole in the water you pour money into.
A boat owner is only happy twice. When they buy a boat, and when they sell it.
“You don’t want to buy a boat. What you want is a friend with a boat!”
A boat for personal use and a boat for trade use are two very different things.
Makes me wanna link the thread where people were making the argument that wheelchair users and deaf people wouldn’t exist in fantasy settings.
Just because there is magic doesn’t mean everyone can afford it.
Also interesting to think about, if a deaf person has a magic amulet that grants different hearing, are they no longer a deaf person or are they a deaf person with a magical aid?
are they a deaf person with a magical aid?
I think they’d still identify as deaf for community purposes.
I think they would do the exact opposite for community purposes. In a medieval fantasy world they might be the only deaf person in their small town, so they don’t wanna be ostrasized for being different and weird.
