• Taleya@aussie.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    6 months ago

    Yeah nah mate. You have the right to not vote. But if you choose to exercise this right you don’t get to whinge about the person elected by those who did vote.

    Society is not composed of you and you alone. It is composed of many. You took yourself outta this decision but it’s still being made freely by everyone else and no, it doesn’t impinge on you to accept the democratic consensus of the many

    • Kashif Shah@lemmy.sdf.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      6 months ago

      But if you choose to exercise this right you don’t get to whinge about the person elected by those who did vote.

      roflmao, sorry, that is just absurd.

      until the UN General Assembly says that the right to share an opinion only applies to people who vote, you are totally wrong.

      i’ll exercise my universal right to complain and have self-determination in government by not voting for genocidal maniacs, thank you very much.

    • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      6 months ago

      I understand that I’m living in an oppressive system enforced by violence and that my life is shaped at the threat of state violence. you don’t need to reiterate that to me. It’s why I’m not legitimizing it by participating in this farce of “democracy” and instead dedicate my life to changing it.

      Whichever puppet is on top doesn’t change all that whatsoever. Nor will your platitudes about be “accepting the democratic consensus of the many” when I don’t have the alternative due to said violence.

      • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        6 months ago

        Well said. As someone who is going to vote for Biden to keep Trump out of office, I harbor no ill will towards leftists who choose to reject the whole charade. One way or another, we need to bring down the system, and I don’t see any evidence that voting for centrist democrats is likely to incrementally move us towards a better system.

        On the contrary, it seems more likely to me that Trump would potentially accelerate the evolution of society by fucking everything up so badly that we would have no alternative but to make radical changes.

        However, given that I am unable to be certain of the future outcome of each timeline, I believe that voting for Biden minimizes the risk of a worst case scenario. But again, I don’t approve of shaming leftists for abstaining, because the reality is that both parties are colluding to maintain the status quo, and ultimately if Trump wins the election its not the voters who will be to blame, but the Democratic party for failing to produce a credible challenger.

        • Kashif Shah@lemmy.sdf.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          6 months ago

          For the little it will be worth to you, i am a radical moderate and we can find common ground in fixing the broke in radical ways.

          • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            6 months ago

            Thank you for sharing that; I also consider myself a radical moderate. In the context of a decadent and degenerate society, the term makes a great deal of sense.