The USA gives millions of dollars to these countries… Germany received 10 million from the USA in 2025.
Why does Germany get 10 million and universal healthcare, and we get 0 million and $1000 shots of insulin?
Well, as long as we take care of Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell, that’s our number one priority.
10 million, if true, it only a spit in the ocean. You guys really need to learn to stop blaming other countries for your continued social crisis.
The US is still the most wealthy country in the world. And it’s, I believe, the only Western country in the world without universal healthcare.
You already have the cash, you just need to decide to spend it in the right way. Every dollar you spend on other countries has a hook embedded in it, just like China does. Believe me, it’s not altruistic generosity.
I don’t think this person is blaming Germany they’re blaming politicians for giving money to Germany.
Yeah, $10m is chump change for a country and even most states. Pretty sure that’s how much it costs to repave a mile of my street nowadays. 🤣
We may have given money to other countries, but the US has also used it’s influence to shape the world in it’s favor to a much larger self-benefit than few million dollars.
Millions is nothing these days for countries.
Germany’s population is ~80 million. $10 million isn’t nothing, but that’s $0.125 per person. We also didn’t just, hand them a bag of cash and walk away whistling.
10 million dollars on the scale of Healthcare is… well about $30 per person in the US. Do I need a source to say we spend far more than that? The problem isn’t just how much we spend, it’s what we get for it, which is mostly rich Insurance companies.
Unfortunately, we might be slowly getting there.
A lot of countries have been and continue to erase public healthcare budgets, to the point where it barely functions.
Officially as a response to slowing economical growth… Because as usual, GDP is the only thing that matters, and of course, we just couldn’t possibly tax billionaires.
But in America nobody wants it, support for universal healthcare is barely above 70%!
Also, approval for universal healthcare in the US is even higher than that when you disregard what the over-65 crowd think. You should disregard their opinions because they are the ones most against universal healthcare but are receiving universal healthcare themselves (Medicare). If you’re gonna accept free healthcare for yourself and shit on anyone else who wants it, yes I think your opinion on it shouldn’t matter.
I am in Australia, and I can guarantee you that there are lobbyists in the capital every single day trying to have it stopped.
100% the liberal party loath it. John Howard had a crack at weakening it by pushing more people to private health cover with his levies.
The Liberals did privatise Medibank, which was the predecessor to Medicare. It took 13 years of successive Labor governments to make Medicare untouchable. If, god forbid, One Nation does get up we will end up in the right column.
The US also wants it stopped.
In Australia. Our government’s bargaining over the price of pharmaceuticals under the PBS has caused massive pressure by big US drug companies. A great many drugs have their prices capped in this country. Trump’s boys have been jumping up and down threatening this and that for us to adopt a more lethal regime.
However, it was the same under Obama, so it’s the US system at fault not just the present adminstration.
Fucking Israel only has universal healthcare because we in the US pay for it! Fucking bullshit they get it and we don’t but we are paying for it.
The fucking bullshit is US imperialism. You have been bankrolling Israel for your benefit, i.e. to be able to militarily coerce the gulf states into upholding the petrodollar system. You have not been “nice and naive”, you have literally been complicit in genocide for monetary gain.
Don’t be mean! They have not been colonizing for their own benefit!
They all did it for Israel’s benefit of course!
Source?
I’m worried Canada might end up being the first one.
Fuck Doug Ford
I really want a system like this but it is SO HARD to do in a large and diverse country.
Country size has nothing to do with it; it’s all in the lobbies.
Much of what’s wrong with American healthcare could be fixed with a few pieces of federal legislation:
- Any medical practitioner who deals with one health insurance provider has to deal with all of them. Likewise, all insurances have to accept bills from all licensed medical practitioners.
- There are limits to how much can be billed for a certain procedure within the health insurance system.
- There are limits to how much a health insurance is allowed to charge for the basic plan relative to income.
- A health insurance’s basic plan must cover at least a certain set of medical procedures (but is allowed to cover more). These include all regular life-saving procedures and a range of preventative ones (e.g. semiannual dental checkups).
- Health insurances are not allowed to deny basic coverage due to pre-existing conditions.
- Deductibles are banned.
- Copays are regulated.
This gets rid of the “out of network” bullshit and basically turns the American healthcare system into an approximation of the German one. The German system is one of the most expensive in the world and generally considered to be of middling quality compared to other wealthy nations but it’s half as expensive per capita as the American one; based on free enterprise (with a fuckton of regulations, which is normal for the medical sector); and wildly more effective than the American system, which doesn’t even rank among other developed nations.
The only reason the USA don’t have a better healthcare system is that lobbyists spend an unholy amount of money to ensure it doesn’t and lawmakers are willing to do whatever the highest bidder tells them to. Size and diversity have nothing to do with it.
These are great ideas!
Oh ok clearly it’s not worth doing, let’s fund genocide instead! Fuck off with this bullshit.
Brazil did it ages ago and it is just as large and diverse as the US. I’m not saying it’s easy but it is absolutely doable.
The only barrier to implementing universal healthcare in the United States is the health insurance industry, the corruption it relies on, and the racism that the corrupt politicians use to turn people against their own welfare.
Diverse???
Race/Ethnicity? Religion? Language? Cultures? Politics? The US is a bit short on diversity in some of these.
Europe managed it. Every country in it has it.
And they are double the population of the US.
Size is not an issue what so ever.
Sure but Europe isn’t one country lol
China has a larger population and land area than the United States and they have universal healthcare. There’s nothing special about the US that makes universal healthcare more difficult to implement except the entrenched special interests that lobby the government to prevent it.
They are also significantly more culturally homogenous and they’re the oldest established civilization on the planet, so that sounds about right.
I don’t understand what any of that has to do with healthcare.
Oh, ok. Might want to study the legal system and how laws are passed. It’ll make sense after that.
If it still doesn’t, I can’t help sorry.
I think you’re just lashing out at me because you’re unable to explain why you think diversity makes it harder to implement universal healthcare, but what do I know. I haven’t studied the legal system in China.
And the US is?
Where are you going with this? Please continue. I’m curious.
Ok, thanks for your question.
Ok, I’m not American, I’m Australian (getting that out of the way up front).
But… But, we are saturated with US culture, American social norms and politics. I could say with a large degree of confidence that an average Australian (or European) could pass a pop quiz on the United States probably better than an average American. This isn’t a boast, it’s a fact of life due to the relative size of our comparative social footprints.
So when I say that the US isn’t one country, but many, I’m not being facetious. Your federal system consists of a bunch of little fifedoms comparable with Germany in the 18th century. On the face of it, yes, you are, of course, ‘United’. In reality you guys seem fundamentally Balkanised.
Culturally, socially, religiously, and very much politically, you might as well have hard borders.
That’s what my casual one-liner meant to convey.
Makes sense, and I could definitely see how someone outside the US could develop that perspective. Thank you.
It’s pretty accurate but a bit more nuanced than how you described it!
The larger and more diverse the insurance pool, the cheaper it becomes per capita.
You’re literally just repeating propaganda.
France implemented it in 1945 not 1974 idk where that year comes from
The 1945 law only covered workers and their families. It took until 1999 to get full coverage based on residency. (But I also have no idea what 1974 is doing on there.)
I dug a little, and it turns out there was a 1975 law and later 1978 removed the employment requirement to receive it, this might be why, but it’s off by a year haha
Makes me wonder if all the other dates aren’t just made up as well…
Germany 1941
Japan 1938
Maybe not universal…
This probably says 1941 because it’s when “all” retirees became automatically insured, but earlier or later would also be a good answer.
Otto von Bismarck instated a rudimentary system (German language link) covering only poorer workers and their families in 1883, but that expanded to cover everyone gradually and was then taken away from multiple groups in the 1930s and 1940s until it was reinstated for all in 1949.
But we’re FREE.
Free from good health.
Universal Healthcare are threaten everywhere, not because their are not balanced. Lobby from Insurance company made politics diminish income from healthcare and legalize private solution.
For example in France, the healthcare system covered almost everything and was balanced fo decade (1946 - 2000), thanks to a socialization of income. At first the system was own only by Trade Unions, but now half of it’s leaders come from the bosses association.
In Europe, we have to fight against the US models for decades, and we have lost some of our health coverage because of the privatization. As an example among many death and suffering, this year is a record of death-born in France.
Better start making more babies if you want to keep your universal healthcare tbh. Coverage WILL worsen as the average age of a society goes up, unless you still have colonies to exploit of course.
I’m also noticing that none started in any year starting with a 2. Not only did all those countries realize that universal healthcare is necessary, they realized it over 30 years ago. The US is so backwards.
Most on this list have slowly gutted it in one way or another im sure
Obviously still better than, well, over there
NHS costs 4600$ per recipient.
Current US public spending on healthcare (Medicaid, medicare, ACA subsidies, Veteran healthcare…) is 5600$ per capita (not recipient)…
We could lower taxes and give everyone free healthcare.
Fuck it, that extra 1000$ can go straight to the president pocket if he gives us Medicare for all.
Honestly, present that to him, that’s the best way to get positive change these days.
Would be funny if he enacted a bunch of socialist policy just so he could make a one time profit, but leaving us all in a better place in the long run. Too bad his pedo buddies won’t allow it.
Not the worst plan. But even with a zero risk, easy win like that I’m pretty sure he’d still think he’s getting screwed in the deal and demand the values flipped.
The NHS is rapidly enshitifying and jumping in bed with AI and Palantir. Privatising has been a Conservative wet dream for a long time. Check back soon. We might be on the list on the right.
Not directly comparable dollar to dollar, American doctors and (traveling) nurses are paid amoral amounts of money in many cases. Would still be significantly cheaper overall than the current system.
if you want to get angry, compare us drug prices with other countries (without subsidies or insurance).
Mexico. Add Mexico
