These chucklefucks have been in the pockets of the automotive and oil folks for a very long time.
The liberals are at least putting on a good show for not being bought out by the major players in the energy markets.
I don’t think any of them are clean, but at least one of these groups is trying to show us some amount of progress…
What are you talking about? Biden handed out massive fracking contracts, allowing for such massive amounts of oil that the emissions from those stores alone guarantee a 2.5 degree global warming. The only thing liberals do is some vague photo-op that makes you feel nice, like the Paris accords.
We wouldnt have problems with the Strait if shitpigs didnt sit at home and do nothing while fascists were handed power.
It’s so crazy to blame Reagan, while ignoring the vast industry that had already consumed the political infrastructure of dozens of states.
Carter was as much a creature of the O&G industry, when he supported our fascist allies in Saudi Arabia and Jordan, plus the industry at home.
Nixon was even worse.
But this goes so far beyond who was president at any given moment. Like, if you’re going to blame anybody, blame the folks who figured out Plastics. After the 1980s, plastic exploded the demand for petroleum.
Nobody drills well to make plastic.
Vertically integrated industries don’t care. The massive yields in refining and selling plastic go right back into the capex budgets of refineries.
Reagan was part of a concerted effort by the mega rich to destroy anti-corruption efforts and put power in the hands of a unitary executive more akin to a dictator. Oligarchs love strong centralized power because it’s easier to corrupt.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/master-plan/id1723377799
Political manipulation on Lemmy. How fitting for Lemmings.
If only we always voted for the other party of our entrenched two party system, everything would be fine. Amirite?
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I don’t like dems, but are you actually pretending republicans aren’t deliberately destructive?
Are you pretending that the dems aren’t deliberately destructive? Like, yeah, the republicans are obviously deliberately destructive, but so are the dems.
It’s two sides of the same coin manipulating the populace for a common goal. Controlled by the same puppeteers.
Both sides are ruled by money if that is what you mean but they definitely represent different groups of wealthy people. Tired of your voice not being heard? Just try being wealthy instead of poor.
they definitely represent different groups of wealthy people.
That’s sometimes true, but you’ll also often find the same person funding both parties.
Since at least the days of Senator Barry Goldwater, the petite bourgeoisie have tended to prefer the Republican party, but the haute bourgeoisie are less partisan and will often fund both.
Do you know how insanely wasteful was using solar panels at the time???
It was a strong symbolic move though. Had America pushed harder on renewables we’d all be paying a lot less for energy now and we likely wouldn’t have pushed into the middle east at the behest of oil profiteers. Not to mention the climate outcomes. Reagan was strongly pushed by the oil lobby.
Nah, solar power just needed time to be viable. As the science progressed, the costs of solar power dropped by half every few years. Now its viable. Back then it really, really wasn’t.
Having a solar panel to signal intentions was nothing but cringe waste of taxpayer money at the time - costs were like two orders of magnitude too high. I’d remove that shit same as Regan did if I made the decisions.
Oh yes, that minuscule expenditure to encourage adoption was so wasteful. Our government has spent enough to cover the entire country over with solar panels in their misguided foreign wars, subsidies, and a million other wasteful expenditures for the oil industry.
encourage adoption
Bruh, at that cost there was NOTHING to encourage.
Bruh - you do understand almost all technology is prohibitively expensive when it’s new and becomes cheaper with investments in development and manufacturing improvements. That only happens with investments in that development. Visible endorsements like the president pushing for adoption make people invest more in these technologies. Not sure why you are so against this $28,000 project. The government wastes astronomically more on technologies that never become viable every year. Trump is literally canceling paid for wind projects and just giving contractors the money because oil lobbyists funded his campaign. The government wasted more on drill baby drill propaganda than this small project ever cost tax payers.
That only happens with investments in that development.
No. This is an interdisciplinary issue, where semiconductors, manufacturing tech, automation, and ton of other tech had to come together at scale to make that product viable. No amount of money in 70s would bring you affordable solar panels. It’s like asking medieval craftsman to produce a nuclear weapon. It’s not going to ever happen without entire economy and all disciplines of science maturing enough to deliver
Even ignoring the fact that adoption spurs development of technology, once they were already installed it cost nothing to leave them there. Wouldn’t removing them also be a waste of taxpayer money?
Let me guess, the symbolism suddenly becomes worth it when it’s your side.
Do you know how insanely wasteful going to space is???
Also solar cells are about twice as efficient now as they were in the 1970’s. So those panels were definitely useful even back then, but let’s be honest they were for show. Regan definitely made a statement by tearing them down and that was we are all in on petroleum. Fucking stupid.
They were half as efficient and like 50x more expensive.
definitely made a statement by tearing them down
Yeah, statement of respecting taxpayers money. The tech just wasn’t there
Actually, it wasn’t solar panels it was a solar heater to warm water. This technology was cheap and effective back then.
Following the fall of the pro-American Pahlavi dynasty in early 1979, Iranian protesters regularly shouted “Death to America” and “Death to the Shah” outside the U.S. embassy in Tehran, including the day the embassy was seized on 4 November 1979, which commenced the Iran hostage crisis.[19] Throughout the crisis, Iranians surrounding the embassy chanted “Death to America” and “Death to Carter”.[20]
Iranian students storming the Embassy of the United States in Tehran on November 4, 1979
Which was a response to Carter granting the shah asylum, giving Iranians reason to believe he’d be installed in a coup as a US puppet, exactly as he had been before.
Those students weren’t just storming the embassy for fun, or because they just hated the US. They had a specific demand.
Yes. Maybe I wasnt so clear, I was frustrated by the OP being a little gleeful about Carter. I was sharing this because I agree with it.
Oh, my interpretation on your comment was completely off, sorry if I came off rude (and sorry for downvoting).
You can draw a neo liberal shitstorm bumpy line from Regan to Trump.
Regan telling Iran not to release the hostages until after the ekection and if he won he’d sell then weapons (Iran-Contra) and he’s elected twice.
Carter had bad ratings because he wasnt a typical US President, he actually gave a fuck about people and place. Welfare queens indeed ffs
Ironically the welfare queen bullshit was based off one very specific person, a career conwoman who was suspected for child murder at the time she was mentioned as a part of insurance fraud. The implications was that welfare fraud was severe and she was just the top most fraudster, meaning the scale went down from the 80K fraud she did with lesser amounts all the way down.
Truth is, there was just her. Welfare fraud was so rare and NEVER even CLOSE to her level that they were negligible. But it didn’t matter to them.
BTW the overt scrutiny of her welfare fraud was so severe that a major reason why many of the investigations regarding her role in that murder were dropped because it would take away media attention from her fraud and reveal just what a career criminal she was.
Every piece of great propaganda is built on a truth and a lie. Thanks for that.
I’ve said it often enough that reagan was the worst. Even worst than the orange tumor. That backward criminal couldn’t exist without trash like reagan.
Jimmy Carter also understood the risks of nuclear power and had NASA design massive orbital solar panels
Carter was almost certainly America’s most tech-savvy president. He received some training in nuclear engineering just before leaving the Navy - although he wasn’t a nuclear engineer and never served aboard a nuclear sub - two common myths. I’m pretty sure he wasn’t a climate change denier or an anti-vaxxer, and that he never thought the Internet was “a series of tubes” (Ted Stevens, R-Alaska), or that rape victims don’t need abortions because, “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.” (Todd Akin, R-Missouri).
Don’t sleep on Hank Johnson (D-Georgia) who was worried that putting too much American military on Guam might make the island “tip over”.
Conservatism should be considered a intensive hate crime against humanity.
Ask every “progressive” running for POTUS in 28’ if they plan to put them back and then follow up if they will put that in writing on their platform. If they say yes, suggest they use tungsten carbide bolts to attach them.
This is good people right here
Conservatives are PURE EVIL. Every single one of them. They’ve fought against every civil right advancement in history. Under Reagan, they publicly celebrated the deaths of countless victims of AIDS and did everything in their power to maximise the number of victims. They attacked every researcher who tried to help.
Conservatives consider anyone who can experience empathy to be their enemy. They call empathy “woke” and want it to die. As long as they continue to live, conservatives will never stop oppressing and killing the normal people. They can’t. Because they are truly, deeply evil.
Every war and every genocide in human history has been caused by conservatives exclusively. Nothing good has ever come from conservatism. Nothing at all.
Conservatives are the very definition of evil and must be completely redacted if we are to ever know peace.
Every war and genocide has been done by people following a ideology blindly. Religion, communism, racism, conservative does not count toward all these ideologies so I wouldn’t say your message is true.
The difference between progressive and conservative is indeed empathy. But it stop short at who you think the ennemies are. If you are ready to ignore (or of course kill, emprison etc) all people that say they are from an ideology, you are not showing empathy.
The ideology is extrem. The people following it have different reason and degree of following the ideology. All of them aren’t extrem. Just like you have to explain to conservatives that not all x minorities are dangerous and need to be forcibly removed.
Conservatism get more conservative the longer it exists because they huff their own propaganda. They don’t see anyone even remotely left of center as humans. So if you get slammed for “dehumanizing” them, remind the mental deficient that you are producing noises at, that the conservatives did it first, have a history of doing it, and will continue to do it. Conservatism is a carcinogenic weed and needs to be nipped in the bud whenever possible.
Also I will ALWAYS post this clip to remind people what needs to be done if the Conservatives ever start something (which they also have history of doing): https://youtu.be/eOcimzsviFA
Name checks out.
I’ve always said it and I’ll keep saying it because it is undeniably true.
Not a single one of America’s enemies on the face of the Earth could harm Americans more than the Republican party does.
It’s billionaire money - that’s the heart of it all. Everything can be traced back to billionaire financing. The Republican Party was just the easiest vehicle to power to corrupt. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/master-plan/id1723377799
In geopolitics it’s been well understood for some time that the only nation that could destroy the USA is the USA.
I guess only republicans. Okay.
Yup
It’s impossible for Republicans to do more harm than the Republicans.
Yes. It is hard for anyone to do more harm than themselves…
But it isn’t like they are unit 731, or the roman emperors.
Trumps style is very late-Roman emperor tbh
I wish. It would make more sense of what he is doing.
he’s literally the problem almost every single time there’s a long standing problem. most of it traces ban to Ronny which is amazing considering he may have been brain dead the entire time.
And the only exceptions are when it’s really Nixon who’s the problem
he may have been brain dead the entire time
They say history repeats itself.
They say those that know history are cursed to watch those that don’t repeat it
