NOTE: I am NOT defending AI or it’s usage or anything like that. So just tie that horse right back up at the kitchen sink. I don’t like the whole AI thing. This post is not about AI.
I get that it was necessary at first, but now whenever there’s any hint of AI, there’s a great chorus of everyone saying the same thing ‘AI slop bla bla bla’ like a gaggle of sheep jerking their knees.
It’s not fucking helpful. It only sows even more division among the peasants, while the oligarchs take zero notice and continue on as usual. The correct way to engage with AI content you don’t like is just not at all.
Examples:
Recently I watched as a post for a community event was removed, because it had an AI image. The image was not requested or created by the organiser, it was provided to them, and had information in several languages. But the post was removed because AI slop and now there is less human connection happening. Yay. Well fucking done. You literally are helping the AI overlords now.
I’ve seen many actual legit digital artists getting hit with the cries of AI slop and even banned, when they have been making art for years before AI was even a thing. People actually can’t tell the difference half the time when they think they can, and end up hurting real artists.
Now is not the time to be attacking each other over using AI to generate some stupid meme. There are much, MUCH bigger issues at stake right now, and calling everything AI slop does nothing to help.
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I dislike it too, but I strongly disagree, ai slop is much worse and you have to be loud because of how strongly it is forced upon us.
Be loud about why it’s bad
It undermines human effort and is generally spam, maybe we have different experiences but I’ve heard that to death already, which is why it’s annoying to me.
I don’t think it’s a big problem for normal consumers to use LLMs to generate content, no artists are losing their jobs because of that and most people have other vices that are more problematic to the environment etc.
The main issue I see with it is the normalisation of AI which could affect adaptation elsewhere but I think these greedy corporate fucks will go 100% no matter what.
Consumer choice, based on morals or ethics, has very rarely been a major motivator to production (I think, honestly I have no idea).
Anecdote:
I have heard drawing/painting artists discuss losing customers because people generate a slop replacement and call it good instead of paying for commissions.
“Why would I pay $15 for your version when I can just make one myself?”
I was more thinking of scenarios where you wouldn’t hire an artist anyway. But undoubtedly there’s a gray zone there and risk that it’s moving.
What I was trying to say is that if I would’ve just handslopped together an invitation card to my party before, it’s not that big a crime to let an LLM do it now. Even though I would be much happier to see a sloppy handmade card than genslop.
This is a fair take. I think AI slop is AI slop even if it has cinnamon in it. But I completely agree that a handmade card is always better.
Posting ai in the first place is retarded
The last one I saw made me cringe so hard I needed reconstructive surgery.
It was of a woman on a bed reading the bible to her kids while shielding them from the trans rainbow.
Yeah, I know, it hurts, I hope you have cheap medical care.
If you can replace a word with the N-word and your sentence sounds like it came out of jim crows’ mouth then you are being anti-AI wrong. If you sound exactly as dumb as an anti-vaxxer promoting your lack of understanding as evidence then you are being anti-AI wrong. I really only defend it here but I don’t even like the only AI that people here seem to use the big chatbots.
And then there is the people that see AI and freak out those are irrational people with a morality that only activates for this particular subject.
dont blame the anti-slop crowd for the problems created by the stupid jerks destroying our only livable planet for profit
it’s OUR fault that the dogshit that is getting plastered everywhere is causing a backlash?
unpopular for sure, despite its thoughtlessness, have an upvote
You’ve missed the point of the post.
sorry
Upvoted for very unpopular opinion.
Yes, let’s just ignore all the bad things happening around us. Great idea.
Not ignore, find better ways to deal with it.
Well you could instead say something like, “You shouldn’t use AI for images, it massively harms the environment and has a huge societal cost that we will all pay.”
Engage with the person, not the content. That’s far more effective.
Those examples you mentioned of unfair and undesired outcomes after witch-hunting AI slop are legitimately unfortunate. Very clear cases where we should pick our battles and not be overly confident in our identification of slop. I agree fully on that.
But if people are posting slop that they explicitly or implicitly pose as their own work, just for our simple viewing, then most people are going to take a stand. We don’t want that stuff. 👍🫶
To summarize, I grant that I don’t fully disagree with your original post.
Take care!
Yeah, but then how people here or on Reddit would feel special?
It’s a dangerous trap to fall into
nah, fuck ai and anyone who uses it
If we cannot stop the infighting, the machines have already won.
Thanks for this honeypot. Lots of great assholes to block in the comments.
Anyone can post Ai slop by accident. It’s how you handle it. And if you do it on purpose, you know what side you’re on. I’m fine with people acknowledging that they used something they didn’t intent to.
In regards to that event. Did they just say “hey I didn’t know, here’s an image that’s just word art?”. There are so many ways to handle things. Hell, just hand draw something in a minute when you find out and post that instead.
AI slop is not your friend.
Yup, an unpopular opinion.
I’d argue there’s absolutely no moral usage of it because it’s a tool of the oligarchs to devaule workers further and further. AI media slop is a real problem, if you allow any of it then where is the line at which you stop then?
how is it a tool of the oligarchs to devalue workers? It can be used by any worker for a tiny cost and the models themselves are a pretty competitive space with very little signs of any of the big companies having a moat.
AI media slop would be a problem if the content on these platforms wasnt already the worst shit possible.
This is deep if you’re 14. The costs to access it are dirt cheap. If you think its useful there is nothing stopping you from using it to access wealth.
Wealth never has trouble accessing skill. If anything it undermines wealth by giving everyone access to skill.
That being said I consider AI to be access to skill in the same way a search engine is access to skill more of a tool than a worker replacement.
Unfortunately for us, the oligarchs definitely see it as a way to pay people less
Thats a different claim. Companies have always wanted to reduce labor costs. The question is whether AI actually gives them the ability to do that at scale. So far, there is no evidence of broad wage suppression or mass job loss caused by AI. Companies will always have access to skill. So I dont think you can say that a tool accessible to millions of ordinary people is exclusively empowering elites and removing access to wealth from people. If I believe AI was that powerful I would be forced to think the opposite, that it was giving ordinary people access to skill and wealth.
The fact they see it as a replacement for certain workers for cost cutting it the entire reason. You don’t think they’ll validate that if AI can do X of your job you deserve less money? Nothing about AI is to help YOU, the worker, it’s to help THEM the business.
Ok so tool of the oligarch to devalue workers is meaningless since every piece of tech falls under that description.
Being purposely obtuse is unbecoming of you.
Why is it worse than other tools?
Regardless of moral usage or not, chanting ‘AI slop’ at every opportunity provides minimal benefit and doesn’t encourage the user over to our side.
Some people may not know it’s AI Slop and pointing out and how to identify helps. For those who are wholly in support of we’ll never get them to agree. I don’t try to change people’s opinions who will not ever change them. Which is why I stopped arguing with most conservatives and all reactionaries.
Well, I am stumped.
Do I downvote this because I disagree, thus telling OP that it isn’t an unpopular opinion, or do I upvote the post because it is an unpopular opinion?
You upvote if you disagree, and upvote if you think it is an unpopular opinion. Downvote if you agree
Downvoted because I agree.
What if you agree, but think it is an unpopular opinion?
If you agree that the opinion is unpopular give it an arrow up. If it’s something that’s widely accepted, give it an arrow down.
If you agree that the opinion is unpopular give it an arrow up. If it’s something that’s widely accepted, give it an arrow down.
This particular opinion is popular with me, only because one of the things that got SO tiring on reddit was scrolling past all the FAAAAAKE FFFFEEEEAAAAAAAKKKKKEEEE FAKE AKF EKA FKEF FEEEAAAAKKKEEE comments on any submission that happened before AI, or SCRIPTEDDDDDDDD on any video that might be a sketch or might even be legit. Those people now stroke their genitals while posting AAAAAAIIIIIII SSSSLLLLOOOPPPPPPPPPP.
So either it is these things or it isn’t, but S H U T T H E F U C K U P . Jesus fucking christ.
That said, AI slop sucks.
