Is there anything new and interesting on that site? Otherwise it starts to look like spam. Yes what’s happening with Android is terrible. We already know. Wake us up if there’s a new development. Otherwise either get ready to switch to a new OS or else to start installing apps via adb. Or maybe hope for a backlash after the switchover, but that won’t be known to happen until it’s actually observed. Continuing to gripe before the switchover is looking useless.
You think there’s gonna be a backlash after this switch?
Google is gonna get rewarded with increased stock prices if anything. Corporate fucking America loves this type of bullshit strategy And unfortunately, corporate America isn’t going to be caught sleeping. The only people that’ll be caught sleeping are the open source developers. Sad truth of the matter is most people aren’t using apps that are going to be affected by this change.
There’s nothing we can sit here, but do it wait for a viable alternative to come out either through the Graphene OS community or through the Linux phone community. If you’re a developer that’s capable of working on phone hardware, We should do our best to assist in any way we can.
PostmarketOS is our best hope for a Linux phone that has no reliance of Google whatsoever. For those who can’t code, donating toward to them (if you have the means) would be very helpful in combating the dystopia Google is pushing
Develop new phone hardware? That’s doomed eg Purism and Pine64. OEM Graphene or LineageOS phones and jailbreaks of existing phones are more promising. Or just give up on smartphones and separate computers from phones like earlier.
OEM graphene is literally making new phone hardware for a specific OS to run on. Agreed, they are probably the most promising project.
So why is Graphene so demanding on hardware? Regular Android runs on billions of lesser phones. Other than the stupid issues around stuff like device drivers, is it enough to run something like LineageOS if you were previously satisfied with a de-junked Android? I’d take a budget phone with Lineage over a flagship phone with Graphene for sure.
Great question. It’s not actually because graphene is all that demanding on the phone hardware. It’s because they have specific security requirements that demand certain class of hardware to be installed that’s not found in every phone. That’s why they require Pixel phones because they come with this required software. They stopped being able to do this with the Pixel 10 because Google stopped releasing The Pixel build with the Android open source code.
Is there an obstacle to adapting Graphene to run on phones people actually have? Those users might lose some special security features but the idea is purely degoogling rather than special enhanced security. Phones are inherently insecure anyway.
Yes, if you ask the graphene developers. They are known to be rather persnickety about their security features. They are highly critical of devices and security, and if it doesn’t meet their standards, they’re not going to do it. And most phones don’t meet their standards, which is why they don’t make graphene OS for anybody else. If you want an OS that’s going to run on everybody’s phone, you’re going to be looking at, like, lineage OS or one of the Linux distributions But unfortunately, there’s just not a lot of money and momentum behind these projects. There’s people that want them, but nobody really has the capital to really fund and push them and give them a lot of momentum.
