Bigger picture, I suspect the events of BND took place after Doomsday. That could account for the Staten Island stuff and help explain Peter’s absence from DD until he gets pulled into that fight.
Great movie, really well done all around. Writing, acting, cinematography, music, cgi…the webslinging was excellent. I want a lot more Peter and Frank!
I’m not yet sold on Sadie Sink as JG, but I’m open to the idea. Her going hard in the paint evil and then having the quick turnaround was the weakest part of the movie for me. I know they were showing May’s positive impact and how it carries on–which is a great legacy for a character we all love–but it comes at the expense of both believability and JG’s development. Her story going forward and how SS portrays it will decide whether it works.
Yeah, from a writing standpoint, I think we needed to see some desire for reform for justification for the complexity. It can work, but it wasn’t natural or well justified.
Also, it kind of felt to me like she was villain-coded and terrifying right up until we discovered that she’s a cute white redheaded teen girl, which felt off to me.
When her lines come out of a cop or a random black dude or MJ, it feels like we’re supposed to see Kilgrave. We’re supposed to really hate her. And then as soon as we see her real face, all of a sudden even when she’s possessing the motherfuckin’ hulk the direction seems to insist that we’re supposed to suddenly see her as far more human. Maybe this means nothing, but I couldn’t help feeling like the movie seemed written by someone with a really heavy bias on who deserves retributive justice and who deserves restorative justice. Like she was irredeemable until white, female, and pretty.
100%. The movie really seemed to bend over backward to forgive her without her even needing to ask for it.
I’ll also add that obviously, part of the reason is that many of the viewers are implicitly told that we’re watching a hero origin story for one of the X-Men.
Well May’s headstone says she died in 2024, and that was also the year Ned and MJ started in MIT. The bulk of BND takes place in their final year of MIT (according to Ned’s vidlog), so assuming they’re doing a four-year degree, that would make it 2028-2029.
Not sure but the MCU wikia says Thunderbolts* was set in 2027. The post-credits scene APPEARS to be the beginning of Doomsday, so it all depends on how much of a timeskip that is.
Bigger picture, I suspect the events of BND took place after Doomsday. That could account for the Staten Island stuff and help explain Peter’s absence from DD until he gets pulled into that fight.
Great movie, really well done all around. Writing, acting, cinematography, music, cgi…the webslinging was excellent. I want a lot more Peter and Frank!
I’m not yet sold on Sadie Sink as JG, but I’m open to the idea. Her going hard in the paint evil and then having the quick turnaround was the weakest part of the movie for me. I know they were showing May’s positive impact and how it carries on–which is a great legacy for a character we all love–but it comes at the expense of both believability and JG’s development. Her story going forward and how SS portrays it will decide whether it works.
Yeah, from a writing standpoint, I think we needed to see some desire for reform for justification for the complexity. It can work, but it wasn’t natural or well justified.
Also, it kind of felt to me like she was villain-coded and terrifying right up until we discovered that she’s a cute white redheaded teen girl, which felt off to me.
When her lines come out of a cop or a random black dude or MJ, it feels like we’re supposed to see Kilgrave. We’re supposed to really hate her. And then as soon as we see her real face, all of a sudden even when she’s possessing the motherfuckin’ hulk the direction seems to insist that we’re supposed to suddenly see her as far more human. Maybe this means nothing, but I couldn’t help feeling like the movie seemed written by someone with a really heavy bias on who deserves retributive justice and who deserves restorative justice. Like she was irredeemable until white, female, and pretty.
She’s REALLY lucky that Spidey saved all of the people she almost murdered.
100%. The movie really seemed to bend over backward to forgive her without her even needing to ask for it.
I’ll also add that obviously, part of the reason is that many of the viewers are implicitly told that we’re watching a hero origin story for one of the X-Men.
Well May’s headstone says she died in 2024, and that was also the year Ned and MJ started in MIT. The bulk of BND takes place in their final year of MIT (according to Ned’s vidlog), so assuming they’re doing a four-year degree, that would make it 2028-2029.
Indeed. Has the year been established for the Doomsday events?
Not sure but the MCU wikia says Thunderbolts* was set in 2027. The post-credits scene APPEARS to be the beginning of Doomsday, so it all depends on how much of a timeskip that is.