Rather why dont you tell me why America is the only civilized (and use that term lightly) nation that considers it suppression to prove ones identity before filling out a ballot to vote?
Just be sane and reasonable and you will forget this fake issue was ever a thing.
You already have to prove ID with your ID. Requiring that you get an additional voter ID, which of course you’ll have to pay for just puts an additional hurdle to exercise your constitutional right
Rather why dont you tell me why America is the only civilized (and use that term lightly) nation that considers it suppression to prove ones identity before filling out a ballot to vote?
Why do people like yourself lie so frequently and so easily?
I’m not from the US and have voted without ever having to “prove” my identity.
In the US this is only true in some states but not in others.
The bigger principle is that running elections is one of the real “states’ rights,” and the federal government doesn’t really have any business telling them what to do.
Nope. The 24th amendment effectively bans poll taxes. A requirement to pay for an ID would become a poll tax. States would need to shoulder the burden of issuing gratis IDs.
Nope! When I vote I roll up to the polling place, wait in line, the volunteer asks my name, finds me on the list, and hands me my ballot. No ID needed, no picture on the list or anything, just “trust me bro.”
If I wanted to vote for my non-voting friends literally nothing could stop me, they’d have to review camera footage later onceif a friend found out I voted for them, and yes then I’d go to jail, but you’d have to catch me.
“Voter ID” in US debates typically just means “showing your state ID to vote,” not “getting a separate ID just for voting.” I’ve actually never heard anyone advocate for a secondary ID (I’m sure some exist, but it’s uncommon).
The issue is supposedly black people disproportionately “can’t get IDs easily.” Although that said, literally every black person I have ever met over the age of 18 has had one and they actively consider it racist for people to assume they can’t get one. And that’s not just “my black friend,” it’s a lot of people over a long time, I’m in a very mixed area.
But here’s the big kicker for me: if needing an ID to vote is racist because black people can’t get IDs, then needing an ID is racist full stop. If it’s about specifically needing an ID to use one’s “enumerated rights” specifically, and not say tobacco etc, that still means it’s racist to require ID for alcohol (21st amendment) and guns (2nd amendment).
Not that I’m “for” voter ID, I just disagree with it being “racist” like is often touted, I could much more easily see “transphobic” applying however depending on how it would handle name changes and the like.
The government already knows I am a citizen. They knew it when I was born. They knew it when I got my drivers license. They knew it when I got my passport. Explain to me why I need to further prove my citizenship every time I go to cast my vote? Better yet, explain why they are so afraid of letting me cast my vote?
There is nothing sane or reasonable about a bill that is trying to prevent married women from voting. If you think the SAVE act is anything other than outright voter suppression, then you obviously don’t have a clue what is going on. It will not prevent non-citizens from voting, because the only time they even do that is when someone in charge tells them that they can. Since you obviously cannot show any proof that the lies behind the SAVE act would make any difference to real elections, the only logical conclusion here is that you want to prevent women from voting and you don’t really care if our elections are safe and secure. Congrats on that “big win”.
Rather why dont you tell me why America is the only civilized (and use that term lightly) nation that considers it suppression to prove ones identity before filling out a ballot to vote?
Just be sane and reasonable and you will forget this fake issue was ever a thing.
You already have to prove ID with your ID. Requiring that you get an additional voter ID, which of course you’ll have to pay for just puts an additional hurdle to exercise your constitutional right
Why do people like yourself lie so frequently and so easily?
I’m not from the US and have voted without ever having to “prove” my identity.
In the US this is only true in some states but not in others.
The bigger principle is that running elections is one of the real “states’ rights,” and the federal government doesn’t really have any business telling them what to do.
Nope. The 24th amendment effectively bans poll taxes. A requirement to pay for an ID would become a poll tax. States would need to shoulder the burden of issuing gratis IDs.
Nope! When I vote I roll up to the polling place, wait in line, the volunteer asks my name, finds me on the list, and hands me my ballot. No ID needed, no picture on the list or anything, just “trust me bro.”
If I wanted to vote for my non-voting friends literally nothing could stop me, they’d have to review camera footage later
onceif a friend found out I voted for them, and yes then I’d go to jail, but you’d have to catch me.“Voter ID” in US debates typically just means “showing your state ID to vote,” not “getting a separate ID just for voting.” I’ve actually never heard anyone advocate for a secondary ID (I’m sure some exist, but it’s uncommon).
The issue is supposedly black people disproportionately “can’t get IDs easily.” Although that said, literally every black person I have ever met over the age of 18 has had one and they actively consider it racist for people to assume they can’t get one. And that’s not just “my black friend,” it’s a lot of people over a long time, I’m in a very mixed area.
But here’s the big kicker for me: if needing an ID to vote is racist because black people can’t get IDs, then needing an ID is racist full stop. If it’s about specifically needing an ID to use one’s “enumerated rights” specifically, and not say tobacco etc, that still means it’s racist to require ID for alcohol (21st amendment) and guns (2nd amendment).
Not that I’m “for” voter ID, I just disagree with it being “racist” like is often touted, I could much more easily see “transphobic” applying however depending on how it would handle name changes and the like.
The government already knows I am a citizen. They knew it when I was born. They knew it when I got my drivers license. They knew it when I got my passport. Explain to me why I need to further prove my citizenship every time I go to cast my vote? Better yet, explain why they are so afraid of letting me cast my vote?
There is nothing sane or reasonable about a bill that is trying to prevent married women from voting. If you think the SAVE act is anything other than outright voter suppression, then you obviously don’t have a clue what is going on. It will not prevent non-citizens from voting, because the only time they even do that is when someone in charge tells them that they can. Since you obviously cannot show any proof that the lies behind the SAVE act would make any difference to real elections, the only logical conclusion here is that you want to prevent women from voting and you don’t really care if our elections are safe and secure. Congrats on that “big win”.