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Not gonna give them a single cent from now on.
I’ve read the blog of the other guy… What a mutilation of marxism…
What’s not to love, they simply want a national version of socialism. I’m sure that’s never come up before.
Not even that. They straight up endorse capitalism over public work.
It’s like national liberal socialism
And he called himself an anarchist when he’s a textbook example of social darwinist, Armstrong type even. My anarchist brothers and sisters, when will you step up to not let them take the brand and banners of your hands?
Its easy, just let racism blind you and kick immigrants out of the working class.
To be fair the 30 hour work week is a campaign promise from the real socialist parties in Sweden
Given that I avoid services that require subscription, Mullvad had been off my list for years already, but this is just sad to hear. And even more now that the best are proven to be Nazis by act or by association, so I prefer to just keep using Proton’s free tier for the time being and being more a hindrance than a money source for them as possible.
they had “free” services like DNS and a decent browser.
i’m using quad9 now.
I don’t see in the page linked where do they provide a free VPN service.
quad9 is the DNS service i replaced mullvad DNS with. It’s not a VPN.
They seem to be on the inertia as a strategy train. Most users won’t have heard about this so they’re not in danger of losing them. A few who have won’t abandon ship because it’s a pain. And the rest they seem to tolerate losing. That’s unfortunate, say I who isn’t even their customer. I would have thought they do more but maybe another two weeks of ended subscriptions can lead them to reason and get rid of Daniel.
What is a good alternative to Mullvad? My subscription just ended yesterday.
iVPN
Proton
They had a similiar episode as far as I remember, don’t have a link right now tho
They praised a single Trump policy. Which isn’t nearly the same as donating to the Nazi party.
Windscribe
If you want something European, I’d throw AirVPN in the mix. I went there and never to Mullvad. And now I’m glad I didn’t and at the same time I’m looking forward to hearing inevitably what corpses my current provider has in the cupboard.
I dislike Proton, which I quit after the CEO praised 47 on his big tech regulation and before they handed the email account of some environmental activist over to the authorities, in France IIRC. They want to be your replacement for Google and keep pushing more services at obscure subscription levels at you. In terms of VPN, they were good though.
But the handing over data from a email account is not a choice for them its a legal requirement.
The Hated One has a video explaining his take on what Mullvad has done, and he gives 2 good alternatives to Mullvad. He also has other videos comparing VPN services in terms of privacy. He’s very thorough.
Which 2 did he recommend?
I would be wary of the claims of any company implementing a mixnet as part of their VPN. The anonymity that Tor provides depends on the basic principle that is is unlikely that your exit node and entry node will be able to collaborate. If all nodes in the network are run by one company then that basic assumption is broken from the start.
If all nodes in the network are run by one company then that basic assumption is broken from the start.
That just degrades it to a normal VPN. Allowing others to join the mixnet, gives it a path to more decentralization. But these things have to start somewhere
Thank you Safing I have not heard of. ivpn not great for southern hemisphere (but do appear ethical) Tor I haven’t looked into for a long time I looked into nym not long ago and left myself this note ‘Pricey if doing per month, not if doing for year. Lack of transparency, shit website. Dodgy feel.’
Love that guy, but that’s the only source I have which at least feels objective, but one source, especially a YouTube video, isn’t enough. Someone got like scientific/investigative data on this?
There isn’t one with feature or operations parity and a similar history of success.
If you are actually concerned for your safety or legal status or something then I wouldn’t switch from them.
If you’re trying to accomplish something else there are good alternatives. Air for example is a great piracy vpn but I wouldn’t trust it for my own safety.
They try to distance themselves from it as much as they can, but at the end of the day he is using money he obtained from Mullvad (us) in ways some people don’t like. The only true way to stop it, is to stop giving Mullvad money, or for the CEO to leave the company and sell all shares and stakes… Which I don’t see happening.
There are definitely not plenty of them.
Are they trying to disrtance themselves, though?
Mullvad does not condone it, nor condemn it. It most likely was a bad idea; most things where there are a multitude of conflicting opinions necessarily are. But societies need a great diversity of ideas, initiatives and organizations who can be tested and sifted until the best ones remain.
But societies need a great diversity of ideas, initiatives and organizations who can be tested and sifted until the best ones remain.
need? At what point does a society NEED to test racism to see if it should remain?
When will these societies decide that they tested it long enough?
What VPN would you recommend which outs privacy first but also has good enough speed and ping to use as daily driver for HD videos and casual gaming?
I like mullvad and will continue to use them, but this was a terrible response. ÖrP is such a strange party. It’s nationalistic, but also Marxist, somehow. I haven’t read all their policies, but I dislike their immigration policy, and the way they act generally. They’re loud and provocational.
Having the correct class analysis but trying to keep the system just split the classes by ethnicity instead of overthrowing it is exactly what the Nazis proposed…
National Socialism you say?
The “Marxist” bit for ÖrP is like “Marx said that under capitalism wokers are alienatied cogs in a machine therefore we should have full control over the reproduction of none pure swedes, through mandatory birth control, so thay we can churn out cogs to the swedish industrial machine, just like Marx said”. That is the type of “Marxism” they talk about in their pod.
Do you have any information where I can read more about this? I don’t want to listen to their podcast.
https://expo.se/ is probably a good start. You can look for Markus Allard, the head of that party. He shares a podcast with Malcom Kyeyene. For example their article here, Swedish, talks about the close connections between these circles (albeit Allard and ÖbP is not the focus there) and white nationalism https://expo.se/fordjupning/det-varas-for-rod-nationalism/
Thank you :3
What vpn to migrate to? Proton trys to be Google 2.0 and centralize, The ones from the adverts (nord, tunnelbear, surfshark) dont protect your privacy and are therefore useless…
Anyone with more tech knowledge got a recommendation fro maximum privacy and decent enough speed and ping for hd videos and casual gaming?
I’m going with Nym when my Mullvad sub is up. If I can get a refund from Mullvad without KYCing myself, I’ll do so earlier.
Nym runs your traffic through 5 nodes or 2 nodes (a nixnet) depending on user selected setting. Node operators are paid in crypto based on the number of packets they handle. The CEO is an anarchist and expects to be in prison at some point. Nym is designed to continue running even if all the higher ups are in prison.
I’m not a customer, just got all this from an interview with the CEO on with TheHatedOne.
Edit: This is the interview I mentioned https://www.bitchute.com/video/uoyDTW2nxWk
My Mullvad sub ended very shortly after this news broke. I paid for nym but the connection on my Android would constantly disconnect and reconnect. On my Linux PC the connection was much more stable but every time I started my PC I would have to restart the daemon because it would never auto start properly. I ended up getting an ivpn subscription as I have used them before and had no problems. I paid for the 2 year sub for nym using their $nym token so it was fairly cheap. I don’t care too much as I want to support them and hope they can improve the experience and I may use the 5 hop mixnet occasionally.
Thanks for the heads up on Nym. I’ll have a look at iVPN.
I believe you can get a 7 day free trial with nym. I don’t want to dissuade you just because of my experience.
Thx for the suggestion, I have seen this, the hated one is my only good source on this topic, but more than one source would be nice.
The anarchist story was one of those which sounded almost to good to be true in my ears
Airvpn and ivpn are the only ones that cone across as ethical to me now. No idea re: details since I have not used either of them (yet).
I use AirVpn. Seems good (no logs, etc) and they allow payment via bitcoin.
I moved to them as they allow port forwarding when many others were dropping the option
vpn company be normal for 1 second challenge [impossible]
They really don’t get it, it is very disappointing, but they deserve to fail now. 99% of the VPN industry is dodgy, mullvad now included.
We have nurtured a culture of radical tolerance. Even when some in our sphere of collaborators have advocated for actors and views that have personally and severely affected the founders and their family members, this has not stood in the way of cooperation.
The leopards that ate other people’s faces will definitely not eat my face too
What are the odds that the others are closeted fascists as well? UK the kind
we don’t agree with the right wingers but immigration is an issue and only they are addressing it, so I’ll keep to myself and not speak much
Damn the radical woke left with their impossibly high expectation of basic human decency.
I really had no desire to get invested into this, but since this gets in my feed so frequently, here we go. I’ve read relevant posts on Daniel Berntsson’s blog, i.e. the individual which this should really concern; instead of Mullvad as a whole. I understand the donated money possibly came from Mullvad subscribers, and if that leads you to unsubscribe, by all means do so; but stop bugging the rest of us.
It seems he donated to ÖP because they criticize excessive taxation, that is believed to typically end up enriching an (upper-)middle class (the “transferiat”), that gain additional support for (self-serving) policies, from lower (working) classes that are dependent on (welfare) subsidies. And given that immigrants are typically of the latter class, it’s believed to further reinforce the transferiat’s position: by a growing dependent class voting in favor of pro-transferiat policy.
This isn’t to say he agrees with (stricter) immigration policy, nor with the other positions taken by ÖP, or any other political party for that matter. Instead, he adheres to a “libertarian anarchist” ideal, where “people can … organically and voluntarily federate together at any scale”. Rather than states appropriating capital from citizens, to only partially redistribute effectively in the form of common goods, which involves protection thereof through immigration policies for example; often to the detriment of people, including him personally.
This isn’t to say he agrees with (stricter) immigration policy, nor with the other positions taken by ÖP, or any other political party for that matter.
He basically IS that party’s budget. His donation was like 80% or 90% of their total donations. I’d think if I basically owned a political party I’d try to make sure they don’t do shit I don’t disagree with.
I belief it’s morally wrong to do that, both from the perspective of the donor and party: as people democratically voted to land the party the low number of seats it has. If a donor could just dictate party policy, you’re disregarding the promise made to the voter. For such an insignificant party it’s likely to give them additional budget for campaigning, so they might have a better chance at competing with the seated opposition. I would respect him if he didn’t, but perhaps he’s able to influence party policy over time; instead of having to fight the uphill battle to get into parliament with a party of his own.
It is so shocking to me that people trust these businesses at all and believe that you gain privacy by paying someone to centralize all your internet traffic thru their servers. Conceptually this doesn’t make sense. You have no actual verification that they don’t log, port mirror or honey pot. Even if they don’t now you have no guarantee they aren’t going to one day flip the switch and turn it on or sell their business to someone who will.
Hey I made a big reply about this to someone else a while back but if you trust the news and what the police say then mullvad is safe.
A long time ago they had port forwarding and pedophiles were allegedly using it to trade csam back and forth. Interpol got together with Swedish cops and did a warrant raid and came back empty handed. They had every legal ability to record user data and wiretap the servers but were unable to. Eventually Interpol pressured cdns and major providers to blacklist mullvad servers and rather than give up user information mullvad stopped offering port forwarding. A lot of people left them because of it.
If you don’t trust what the cops say or what mullvad does then you still gotta see mullvad as safe.
Why would the police put pressure on cdns to drop mullvad traffic if it’s a honeypot? That doesn’t make sense. If it’s a honeypot then why would mullvad drop port forwarding and lose tons of customers who rely on it for piracy? That also doesn’t make sense.
As far as why anyone would ever pay a company to act as a proxy vpn, it’s to anonymize the traffic. Some vpn companies don’t have “accounts” with username (tied to email) and passwords, it’s just one secret, the account number. They might also take anonymous cash payment as well. In that case they can’t really do anything to give you up because they don’t know who you are.
Like anything else it’s a negotiation of what degree of trust you accept. Many small metal shops around here are run out of a commercial type building next to the owners house. My favorite small fabricator is in a little building nowhere near his house (I found out because the neighbors dog was running loose and came up to get a pet and said “is this your dog?” And he said “I don’t even live on this road”). If you trust the people you do business with to not bother you at home then there’s no problem with them knowing your home address. If they never know it to begin with then you don’t need to consider or accept that level of trust.
I have had a Mullvad account for many years. I now have an iVPN acc. It’s a very simple choice for me. If Mullvad’s success results in funding far right racists then I don’t care to assist that happening
Technically Mullvad didn’t fund them, it was there CEO who did it partially with money he got from working at Mullvad.
Read the blog article. They don’t even dare to call a cat a cat. Normalizing racism is endorsing racism
I have about 50 days left on my Mullvad subscription, so I figured I’d wait it out and see how they handled it. Going by this latest Mullvad response, I think I’ll probably have an IVPN account soon too.
“aren’t we living in a multicultural democracy, why can’t the minorities and the racists just get along and be respectful of each others’ ideas”
Absolutely pathetic response. I’m less likely to use them now than before I read this
Sorry, but where are you quoting from? It seems to be neither from mullvad’s last post, nor from the linked blog of Daniel Berntsson.
It’s a (butchered) joke from Peep Show, but I feel it captures the gist of the statement linked to by OP
