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Fuck off, Deutschebags.
Fork found in drawer, once again.
And you wonder why AfD is getting so popular
AfD is very much not supportive towards Palestine.
It’s the “Trump” effect. Many grew tired of the establishment and for some reason saw Trump as an outsider.
My dad voted Bernie in 2016, then switched to Trump. Since then he’s slid into the absolute worst forms of conservatism. But it all started because he thought Bernie would fix the system, saw the system as ineffectual, and then picked the person he thought would disrupt the system.
AfD is definitely pulling on similar sentiments, and will end just as disastrously as Trump maybe even worse
“Fascism arises from the collapse of legitimacy of liberal institutions”
Thats the entire point, if the left wing party is doing nothing but appealing to the far right than most people would rather just vote for the far right party
It’s not about supporting Palestine (on not), the voters and party are more about what’s happening to Germany
Aeguably they are not. The AfD says stuff that gets people riled up but they are the exact same neocons dialed up to 11 as the current government. Just even more racist, fascist and transphobic.
it’s the ‘normal’ parties and EU fuck ups driving their voters to them.
As you said, this stuff gets people riled up and that impacts who they vote for
Hey there’s a new genocide going on Germany: “hold my beer”
Always on the wrong side of history, aren’t you?
Germany never met a genocide they didn’t like
“Anti-zionism” has turned into antisemitism. This obvious to anyone that hasn’t been conditioned by this particular hate group.
Racism is difficult to measure, because if you poll people they will often lie about it. People will often lie about it themselves. “I’m not racist I just want the government to do something about those illegals. It’s about the law, that’s not racist!” In this case it’s more “I’m not antisemitic, I’m just criticizing Israel… at my local synagogue… because the internet told me all Jews are Zionists.”
But what we can measure is the fact that hate crimes against Jews has increased worldwide, those crimes often coincide with events in the Middle East. You rationalize that as being ok because you’re in a hate group afraid of being ostracized or becoming a target of others within your group if you make any action in opposition to the antisemitism within your group.
When countries start taking action against your hate group, you’ll rationalize those countries as being in the wrong with conspiracy theories, often antisemitic in nature. This is what it’s like to be in a hate group. You’re incapable of seeing the facts, you think that when people are protecting themselves from your actions that makes you the victims. You feel entitled to behave in horrible ways against people of a certain ethnicity and/or religious group because of things you saw on then internet.
Germany has a history with hate groups. They know what “Anti-zionism” really is.
You’re very broadly generalizing all antizionists into one big antisemitic basket. Which makes no sense especially given the existence of antizionist jewish groups.
Of course antizionism can devolve into antisemitism, and we shouldn’t ignore that. But equating the two is really fucking dangerous since it essentially preempts any criticism of Israel as antisemitism. And when Israel is committing genocide, that’s not an acceptable position to take.
I feel for jewish people worldwide who had to suffer because Israel is committing genocide and some numnuts blames them for it. I do. But this pales in comparison with the suffering inflicted upon Palestinians. And let’s not forget that there have been synagogues who have openly espoused genocidal rhetoric, which makes them a valid target for protest (a protest at a church espousing Nazi rhetoric isn’t racist towards christians, nor is one at a mosque promoting Al-Qaeda islamophobic).
On a sidenote, conflating antizionism with antisemitism means claiming being against the Israeli government is being against jewish people in general, which is a deeply antisemitic statement to make. I assume it wasn’t your intention but you should be very careful of your language.
You’re not policing yourselves, so you will be painted with a broad brush. You can claim to be a pacifist that’s “only criticizing Israel” but then you look the other way when members of your group shoot at synogogues. Looking the other way and making excuses for the the antisemitic actions of people in your group makes you complicit.
Y’all keep repeating over and over again the slogan “Anti-zionism is not antisemitsm” over and over again, but the only ones you’re convincing are yourselves. It’s just part of some bullshit rationalization that you feels absolves you of the antisemitism running rampant in your group.
Yes, we all know that you think you’re entitled to do horrible things because you saw imagery of horrible things happening elsewhere in the world. But even a child knows two wrongs don’t make a right. When you’re part of an antisemitic group, that’s just you being a horrible person. Horrible things happening elsewhere in the world doesn’t justify you being horrible to people in your community.
There’s an old expression in Germany: What do you call 10 people having dinner with a Nazi? Eleven Nazis.
Who are you having dinner with?
They have so much guilt over the holocaust that they’re enabling the next holocaust.
Killing brown people was never been an issue in west, nothing would happen. I bet they’d be even proud
Which proves that they don’t have any guilt over committing holocaust per say, they just regret the one against European Jews because you know, they lost that war, so that genocide became too costly for them. This one just shifts some of that cost to innocent brown people who are presumed to be unlikely to be able to impose any retaliatory cost. So fuck’em, who cares. Just fascists doing fascist stuff.
The fuck is Germanys problem
They’re german
They once killed a lot of Jews. They don’t want to be seen as any level of antisemitic.
They seem quite comfortable supporting genocide, and too weak to at least speak out morally regarding the matter. Say what you will about the US, Britain, and their support of this genocide; within the nations there is a palpable and significant resistance to what the governments are doing to support the genocide.
Where is the German peoples resistance to being party to yet another genocide?
There are some but get violently beaten or arrested
Where is the German peoples resistance to being party to yet another genocide?
I guess they don’t care as long as it isn’t Germans doing it? 🙃
The lesson they learned from the Holocaust was to get someone else to do the dirty work.
Nothing more antisemitic than supporting zionists
No problem. Smart. Step 1: brutalize nearly all Jews, rob all their property, kill them by slave labour (then lose war, all in shambles, but the economic elite and nazi profiteers remain filthy rich Step 2: support “the right to exist” of a Jewish state far away so you’ll never have to deal with any claims and only with very little Jews in your own country Step 3: celebrate yourself as a moral champion
The German playbook in brief. Herzliche Grüße
Corruption
how very Nazi of them.
fuck
