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Same, except I don’t pirate it, or play it. there’s nearly limitless entertainment options and none is so special.
The only launcher (if it is?) I will allow is Steam. Other wise just won’t play the game or 🏴☠️.
I tolerate both steam and heroic. I can see how a launcher is useful for centralized library management (updates and reinstallation), but I also see how it is a lot of concentrated attention and potential adspace / datamining tool.
I tolerate steam because they have good features & an okay track record, and heroic because I want to receive the free epic games but do not want to give them real estate on my pc.
the steam page warns you of third party launches before you buy the game doesn’t it?
so at least if it does happen it shouldn’t be a surprise
First thing I look for and any for any game that has one I hit the ignore button.
I wish Steam offered the ability to blanket ignore anything that required a third party launcher.
You can block some of the worst offenders by blocking the publisher.
True, but even the worst offenders have exceptions and older games that didn’t yet require it.
That said, thanks for that because I didn’t know you could block a publisher outright.
This only kinda works and only for some publishers. It’s getting better, but it’s still spotty.
G*mer upset the third party launcher opens a launcher from the games actual publisher/developer
Yes, because i mostly see steam as a store. Games should start without needing a launcher in the first place.
You are literally using Steam as the third party. Then lying to yourself about what Steam actually is.
Kindly fuck off with your asterisk letter bullshit.
G*mer is a word I would never sully myself by using. Least I entertain the notion that the backwards cave dwelling troglodytes that proudly called themselves that, think I see them are real people.
Holy fucking turbochud, Batman.
Did you really think that response would win you any points? Fucking loser.
It’s a troll account.
You think I’m upset over a bunch of G*mers?
What are they going to do?
Go onto the Steam forum for their anime Hitler dating sim and make a mean AI generated post about me?
Don’t lower yourself to their level and try and defend them. The only fucking losers here are them.
You go on a sub called ‘gaming’ and throw a sperg tantrum about gamers. What the actual fuck is wrong with you
The only one throwing a tantrum here is you. (And I guess whoever made the original meme)
Was “I wanna buttfuck anime girl Hitler (it’s ok she’s actually 10000 years old despite looking 10) IV” not up to your standards?
You’re fucking nuts buddy.
How does you typing a word “sully” you? That makes no sense.
It’s definitely embarrassing to be a gamer these days, but that doesn’t justify dehumanizing people.
Have you seen G*mers and how they act?
Nothing human about them.
Look at the swears and slurs being thrown my way because I didn’t use the latter “A”.
holy chud, people get angry at you because you are just blatantly insulting them, you got to the point of dehumanizing them
You are the same person that would insult people of another ethnicity, religion or gender just because you feel like, there is nothing human about doing that
Or well, there is something human considering that’s something our species loves to do
One game i can sort of excuse it is stellaris, where you can configure your modlist in the launcher. That does save a ton of loading time when you tinker with your shit and need to restart a couple times.
Nope. The mod bundle known as Rimworld does this just fine without launcher trash, and Paradox is not one of the good ones.
Rimworld has no native mod manager, and TBH editing it in game is slow and clunky. You can edit the XML file, but this is true of many games.
Of course one can use RimSort, but that’s a 3rd party fan project. It’s not really fair to expect every game to have a good one.
The point is that even Rimworld, an extremely mod heavy game, handles this just fine without forcing a publisher’s launcher on its players.
Well, because it was originally sold as a DRM free game.
handles this just fine
But I would dispute this. I’m working out a modlist right now, and I’d be pulling my hair out if I had to do it in game, or manually with the XML file + mod IDs.
Yeah, I forgive XCOM for the same reason. Launchers are helpful for mod-heavy games.
A launcher is still unnecessary here. The menu of the game is as much a launcher as game assets and mods do not need to be loaded at the menu, and the menu can be designed to serve this function with immersive design instead of hostile design.
Most launchers exist to inject web content so they can advertise to you without needing you to update the launcher.
Nah, make a stop at the steam refund button on your way there
do that after you start downloading/installing
The only game I preordered in years was the new Bond game and that was before they disclosed they infested it with Denuvo. I refunded that shit before preloaded was even done.
What a bummer, I love bond games. Thankfully plenty of them on good systems like ps2.
I’m a fan of that one on '360. Felt like GoldenEye but with Daniel Craig and cover mechanics.
I have replaced game binaries with their pirated version for this sole reason
These publishers don’t even deserve the relevancy of high pirate rates. Just find an indie game to play.
Frankly, I despise all launchers, Steam included. The only reason it gets a pass is because it’s one of the two somewhat reasonable ones, and the only one that makes gaming on Linux simple and convenient.
It’s still slow, ugly as hell, and entirely unnecessary. Makes me want to pirate more, but then I’d have to set the games up from scratch.
The only use case for launchers is console gaming. It makes perfect sense on a Deck, Switch or a PS5. But absolutely no sense whatsoever on a desktop PC.
Again - Steam has features that make it tolerable (achievements, screenshot sharing, workshop, etc.), but I’d still prefer to just play my games without anything in the middle.
The only other laucher i dont have a problem with is warthunders launcher
Mostly because its what its needed any nothing more, games loading? Launcher automaticlly shutsoff (less then 1 megabyte) It doesnt need a login for the launcher itself
If its downloaded through steam you may never actualy know it even has a launcher
I like Steam as a launcher because I can organize my games
for games I know I want to play, pretty sure I’ve often just launched them directly. I don’t remember, as I haven’t played much on Steam lately, if it would then launch steam before launching the game.
Yep, launchers have always been a scam. Your launcher should be your operating system
My operating system can’t filter by specifics like “local co-op” or “anime titties” though.
I get how organization can be useful but if click game.exe on my OS homescreen it should open game.exe. Not a series of launchers and login screens before launching game.exe
game.exe
the end.
and the only one that makes gaming on Linux simple and convenient.
It’s not though, there are a handful of game launchers for Linux. Faugus Launcher is a good lightweight one. I believe you can export the game as an icon as well so you don’t even need to open the launcher first if you don’t want to (haven’t personally done this, but pretty due can).
I’ll only use Steam for my non-Steam games if I need controller support since Steam Input is pretty awesome.
The correct take.
I think some games on steam you can just launch from the executable file. I rarely have, because my process is usually “open steam… stare at list of games… pick one”, so steam is already open.
But yeah, at least it adds some value (proton magic, recording and screenshots, the overlay used to be real useful when i only had one monitor…)
I wanted to try this “GTAV” game all the kids were talking about. It was on sale, so I spent four days downloading it over my miserable rural DSL connection only to find out that it wouldn’t work without rockstar demanding my information.
So I refunded it. Im sure there was a work around but I didn’t need to play it that bad.
Fucking Rockstar.
It took me fucking AGES to get Red Dead 2 running on CachyOS because of that bastard launcher.
It’s annoying, I hate it. They’re useless bloat.
But it’s never risen to the level of “I literally will not buy/play the game over this.”
I don’t get people who say this at all. You buy this cool game you love, you’ll spend hours playing it, but you won’t enter a fake email and wait another 30 seconds at launch to play it?
Even at the peak of Origin’s woes, I never got close to that.
But it’s never risen to the level of “I literally will not buy/play the game over this.”
I couldn’t play Mirrors Edge once, because the fucking launcher (what was it, EA?) triggered the opened-files-limit of Linux. 3D games ran fine before that.
opened-files-limit of Linux
It has one? How much stuff did it open 😭
/etc/security/limits.conf. I think default is usually in the 1000s? Of simultanously opened files.
Ok wtf? What the heck is EA doing
Well, was a few years back.
It’s yet another program you didn’t choose collecting whatever data from your computer, and yet another - very intentional - obstacle to the gaming experience. Honestly, it’s less about time and more about artificial obstructions and privacy invasion everywhere.
It is particularly egregious when studios who normally side with the gamers, like CDPR, do the same thing with their games.
I was glad to see with Cyberpunk that I could skip login with their launcher. Later when I decided to try RDR2 it didn’t let me skip login, so I refunded that shit with 0 minutes played.
Thanks for telling me I’m just gonna pirate that shit now
I just stopped buying games from studios that do this.
Yep, same. If I buy a game and that’s the first thing I’m hit with, it’s an immediate refund. They can all go fuck off with their bs launchers.
I tried to play GTA 4 through Steam
The launcher kept failing. Old Rockstar accounts, New ones, didn’t matter. Refunded. I May pirate it at some point, I’ll enjoy the nostalgia of it probably.
Know what works flawlessly? My Xbox 360 DISC.
Modern games are a joke.
The only launchers i can bear are Steam (because it is useful after all, it has proton, the workshop, etc etc) and launchers for Minecraft
This and .desktop files. Don’t forget your OS is already a launcher.
The EA launcher is bundled with Steam purchases of Mass Effect, for instance
Never played mass effect, but even if i did, fuck EA for adding a launcher no one needs
I’ve made it a point to avoid games that require the used of a 3rd party launcher.
Refund time
