You’re right! We should stop doing that other stuff too!
–CEOs, probably
I don’t want Blu-ray, they’re annoying unless someone has cracked them, which only happens for some titles.
Dvd is completely cracked and much more convenient.
The fundamental difference is that when you buy those formats, you are getting a final product. Nobody is stopping your disc in the middle, to ask if you want to download the special remix of this song, or a deleted scene.
Video games are now constantly upselling, and they can’t do that if the consumer is isolated on their PC.
well, music and movies do not weight several hundred GB of data… but that’s also modern games problem.
As a person working in gamdev - they ABSOLUTELY can optimise - people just doesn’t care nowaday.
I’m guessing the PS6 will jailbroken rather quickly
as long as i get an unlocked version of the files, im happy, but if i don’t, to the great seas i go, tho i still buy. i just have a ‘backup’ in case anything happens.
Fuck optical media.
Why? What storage do you think works better?
Solid state cartridges.
Engraved crystal. Slow, but solid af
They want games on vinyl, or maybe 8-tracks. Maybe metal cylinders. Jk it’s probably cartridges (hopefully).
Sony thinking they can just pull a Steam way too late in the game, and with Steam and GOG as competitors 😂
Well, consoles are a pretty closed enviroment. There is no piracy as there is on PC, if still some.
That’s a point against Sony, specifically being a closed system. Having to buy games on Sony’s store requires getting a PS5/6 in the first place, but why get one when PCs are open, and usable if Valve goes rogue too?
Honestly, when I wrote it I was thinking “Sony doesn’t have to compete against relatively easy piracy like Steam and GOG do”. I don’t even remember what my actual point was, but I think it was precisely against Sony as in “there is no easy alternative if Sony goes rogue, your PS OS belongs to them, so they have not such incentive to make things good, therefore the risk is higher” or something like that lol.
There is a lot of piracy for consoles. It’s just a matter of time.
Piracy for consoles isn’t like it was in the Xbox 360 and earlier days (excluding Nintendo although they seem to have finally gotten their shit together with switch 2 in this regard). Security for consoles was a joke back then and easily defeated with hardware mods, sometime within weeks of release. Now the focus is more on soft modding and even then it can take ages, if ever.
The ps5 is technically jailbreakable but only in an extremely narrow and unlikely set of circumstances (eg did you buy a ps5 several years ago and never connect it to the internet awaiting a hack that may never come?). And even that took years to release. A far cry from the days of 10 different ps2 modchips and softmods for you Xbox, both available relatively quickly with a super active scene supporting them
Aren’t they usually “pirate and you will you lose any right to ask for help with your console, anywhere, ever again”?
You can get banned from connecting your console to their services if you’re caught using pirated games, or you’ve tampered with the system. There’s ways around it though, and some people don’t care if they’re locked out of services as long as the system still plays the pirated software.
They should have moved to USB keys a long time ago. Make them big and call them cartridges if you want, but optical discs are far too slow.
And loud. And fragile.
Thumbdrives have a firmware, you could easily make them read-only. And also add your inconvenient DRM snake oil, if you will.
But no, cloud promises more $$$ through lock-in.
Thumb drives also have very poor retention. If they aren’t used at least every few years the storage becomes corrupted.
Can you imagine if video game prices were affected by the memory shortages?
But is this not how switch1 games were, just read only sdcards with the game on them.
Nintendo loves a cartridge, and goddamnit sticking with them was right.
Devils advocate here.
I/O and storage in those media formats are kinda limited for video games.
Blue-Ray prob has enough storage (at most we could go for multiple disk releases) capacity but still you would have to copy the games to disk.
I think GOG is on right track on this DRM free keep on disk as long as you want no need to check with external servers to play them.
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I see a whole lot of theoretical “what if platforms did this or that,” when GoG is already doing it right. That’s the way.
Control and greed are reasons!
I already have more games than I could ever finish in a lifetime — in 10 lifetimes — and they’re all digital, in big folders full of files. If I had those thousands of games in physical form I’d need a library in my house full of shelves to store them all, yet digitally I can carry them all around in my pocket!
Exactly. I absolutely agree with OP that robbing people of the choice to own physical media sucks…
But when not paired with shitty-ass DRM, digital format media can be an absolute boon for games preservation. Easy to backup, takes up barely any physical space, and doesn’t require physical hardware to play it that will become increasingly sparce and expensive over time.
If the industry doesn’t want to provide legal pathways towards games preservation, then it looks like the pirates are going to start wearing archavist hats too.
The pirates have been wearing archivist hats for a good while now, I think. At least in the movie space.
– Frost
This is the correct take. The option should be there for everyone. Lots of folks here are with you, where the practicality of DRM-free digital format media is more important. To people like me, collecting physical media is a hobby itself. I probably spend more time shopping for records and equipment than listening to them, for example, though of course I do listen to them as well. I used to be the same with games, which is why I have a ton of OG Xbox and 360 discs, and for movies I have a bunch of blu-rays and DVDs. Yeah, it’s hard to find space for it all but that challenge is part of the fun, at least for me. Plus it can work as interior decor too. And I know I’m not alone, CD sales are the highest they’ve been in over 20 years, and I’m sure other formats are similar. But again, having the choice for DRM-free digital is also important. Taking away our choice is bad for us all.
ootl?
Sony recently announced they’ll stop making discs for Playstations in 2028.
ahhh thats som bs! cant have anythin nice in this world 😒
Gam*rs when their vidya isn’t creating an ocean’s worth of plastic waste.
Gam*rs when the companies keep running servers for DRM checks and digital stores
G*mers after killing physical brick and mortar stores by buying digital only for decades.
it’s about consolidation, control and the ability to control dynamic pricing
Dynamic pricing is basically enshittification of the modern internet age capitalism as a whole.
Time to go back to barter
