• veganism isnt an inherently white or colonial idea
  • veganism isnt bad
  • veganism in the west does not represent the practice of veganism overall (im not giving lashings to buddhist monks when i criticize veganism as a movement in the 1st world)
  • it shouldnt be controversial to prioritize human liberation
  • existing socialist states in the past and present did not endorse veganism and were heavily anthropocentric. if you are a westerner, do not touch this topic with any intention of historical revisionism.
  • if youre white but prioritize animal liberation over anti racism and anti colonialism im judging
  • i dont ”draw a line” and dont care if some cultures eat dogs or cats
  • a lot of non white people are turned off by veganism because we get the feeling that white people care about animals more than us
  • ”herbivore” doesnt just mean consumption of plant diet. as a human you dont have a herbivore digestive system or herbivore teeth. you are omnivore even if you choose a plant based diet.
  • humans are omnivores.
  • abstaining from meat can be good for your health in some cases
  • different cultures have different approaches to meat consumption and should be respected

more important notes:

  • THE MEAT INDUSTRY HAS TO CHANGE and thats not a question. it is cruel to animals in many ways.

  • KNOW YOUR PLACE IF YOU ARE WHITE. i still think of an exchange i saw between a western comrade and a vietnamese comrade where the western comrade insisted the latter was a reactionary because they were opposed to veganism. do not do this ever.

  • STOP SUGGESTING VEGANISM AS AN OPTION FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRESS. it is individualist and individualist measures for environmental damage done by huge corporations do not work period

  • Rylo@lemmygrad.ml
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    4 months ago

    I mean, depends on how you yourself would define rape I guess lol. In my country, it would be illegal to treat cats and dogs the same way livestock is treated - it is a purely subjective and abritraty drawn line. If I held a dog in a cage and (since it seems sensitive to you I will not use the term “anally rape”) continuously forced it to be pregnant by “anally insterting a large metall rod” to keep its cervix in place - I would be prosecuted under animal cruelty laws. It is okay to treat cows this way however… (dw since the animal cant say “no” and only cries out in pain, we cant be sure it isn’t consenting to this anal penetration).

    westerners are also way less rural than we are so theyre not familiar with these things

    I grew up relatively rural, for the local farmers who held livestock and sold milk - this was exactly what was done to the cows and I witnessed it first hand.