• veganism isnt an inherently white or colonial idea
  • veganism isnt bad
  • veganism in the west does not represent the practice of veganism overall (im not giving lashings to buddhist monks when i criticize veganism as a movement in the 1st world)
  • it shouldnt be controversial to prioritize human liberation
  • existing socialist states in the past and present did not endorse veganism and were heavily anthropocentric. if you are a westerner, do not touch this topic with any intention of historical revisionism.
  • if youre white but prioritize animal liberation over anti racism and anti colonialism im judging
  • i dont ”draw a line” and dont care if some cultures eat dogs or cats
  • a lot of non white people are turned off by veganism because we get the feeling that white people care about animals more than us
  • ”herbivore” doesnt just mean consumption of plant diet. as a human you dont have a herbivore digestive system or herbivore teeth. you are omnivore even if you choose a plant based diet.
  • humans are omnivores.
  • abstaining from meat can be good for your health in some cases
  • different cultures have different approaches to meat consumption and should be respected

more important notes:

  • THE MEAT INDUSTRY HAS TO CHANGE and thats not a question. it is cruel to animals in many ways.

  • KNOW YOUR PLACE IF YOU ARE WHITE. i still think of an exchange i saw between a western comrade and a vietnamese comrade where the western comrade insisted the latter was a reactionary because they were opposed to veganism. do not do this ever.

  • STOP SUGGESTING VEGANISM AS AN OPTION FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRESS. it is individualist and individualist measures for environmental damage done by huge corporations do not work period

  • ☭ Comrade Pup Ivy 🇨🇺@lemmygrad.ml
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    4 months ago

    I mean so what if we are divided, I don’t fully understand the reason for the post. We have in general decided to put this devide asside to work to a bigger goal. No matter what your thoughts are or where your lines are, that is what we have done and all bringing this up does is farther open a divide. This post does not seek understanding but seems to admonish, and gatekeep who is even alowed to have conversations about diet. That is in no way productive.

    Agian we have by and large on lemmygrad (though not entirely) decided this divide is not one of the primary ones we will argue about.