I just shared a simple post asking opinions about using AI, and I know, you might think I’m dumb, maybe I am indeed, probably. The problem is, you could feel in the comments the rage, they holding themselves to not say I should kill myself for using AI.
In a specific comment I asked a guy what he thinks about people who are obligated to use AI in the job, their solution is quite simple, quit the job and find another one.
I deleted my post there because it was unbearable, but then I was just checking my comment history now and I noticed every single comment of mine in that post got an extra down vote, I can’t even imagine how it feels like in the head of the guy who did it: “Look this piece of shit I really need to down vote him to show my discontentment, it doesn’t matter what he wrote he uses AI”.
Things are weird, I didn’t see things like that even on Reddit, I can’t remember such a hateful community like that, and it’s very odd to find it on Lemmy itself.
The worst part is that they don’t realize that retaliating people who use AI will lead to the very opposite outcome, those people will feel more isolated and since everybody is such a dick, why to bother stop using AI?
Between two groups of people: Anti-AI and Neutral-AI, I’d stick with the Neutral-AI group since the other is retaliating me, why’d I feel like I need to prove anything for them? Ykwim? The problem is that they’re pushing people who are prone to be anti-AI (like me), to actually give up from the idea because of the absurd extremism they expect of you.
It feels like they’re actually competing to see who is more anti-AI purist all the time, there’s no tolerance.
It’s just bizarre, it’s like if they’re trying to fight Hitler by killing everybody that doesn’t want to kill Hitler.
“Noone in the vegan community fell in love with me for asking if eating meat is really that bad. I feel victimised.”
I asked what monster truck I should drive for the mile to work in a bicycle community, somehow they all hated me?!
That’s reductionist argument, but I’ll reply anyway. A meat eater could ask for opinions and people should be able to answer politely about what he’s asking, maybe he’s trying to reduce the meat he eats, once it’s hard for him to stop eating. Once people push extremism on him he’ll just give up, that’s what I said with provoking exactly the opposite result. If you’re not welcoming, people will just give up. A person reducing meat consumption by half is better than not reducing anything at all.
I’m vegan btw.
What if the vegan community’s first phrase in their sidebar was “A place for all those who loathe eating meat to discuss things, post articles, and ridicule the meat hype”?
Because have you read the Fuck AI sidebar?
It seems you’re mad at the tennis club for not wanting to play golf with you.
AI hype is different from AI itself. You can use AI unrelated to the hype in your own terms. I don’t like AI hype either. I’ve seen translating tools which uses “AI” locally (neural networks) to improve translation, which I don’t think is included in the AI hype definition. My post had nothing to do with hype, I don’t even use AI that often.
“Not even one game of golf. Worst tennis club ever”
Is this entire post about complaining about getting a downvote?
No, if you read carefully I wrote an entire post with context about what the post is. The down vote was just the trigger that made me realize people there are lunatic to spend their time indiscriminately downvoting me without reading what I’m talking about.
Kinda unsurprising to see extremist stances on AI in a community called “Fuck AI”.
Things are weird, I didn’t see things like that even on Reddit
Also unsurprising, Reddit uses all kinds of AI, bots, algorithms and general anti-user behavior, someone who is still there despite all that is unlikely to be very critical of AI.
I won’t judge a community by its name, is it right? It can be extremist or not. I understood as “anti AI but we’ll just write fuck AI for a stronger impact”. But they’re indeed pretty extremist, sick level of extremism, not good at all, not good for any subject.
3 day old OP: hey fuckAI how do you feel about using AI?
Community: we are 100% against it. Look at the community.
3 day old OP: why am I being downvoted?
You really can’t take the hint can you mate?
There are two separate issues here, and as usual, two wrongs don’t make right.
- know your audience. Other people in this thread explained to you why you shouldn’t expect an open minded discussion of that subject in that specific community, and you don’t seem very receptive to that. To what extent do you think you yourself are looking for an echo chamber?
- yeah, some folks in that community are in a bubble, I think posting every little news piece that can even be remotely construed as negative for AI, and then getting together under it and repeating the same oversimplified comments every day (it’s a stochastic parrot!) is a form of group therapy for those who are in denial. A bit like the people in John Wilson’s show who move to a farm in the middle of nowhere to escape 5G, and complain to the landlord that wifi is weak. But the problem that makes them/us angry is very real, unlike 5G phobia.
