knowledge ≠ rationalness and it wasnt PHYSICAL death, it was spiritual death.
You didn’t answer the question. How can you reason without knowledge? How could adam and eve have rational souls before eating from the tree that gave them knowledge and before truly understanding the consequences?
God created satan as an angel of light, but he was corrupted by sin, especially the sin of pride
But god knew this was going to happen, right? Is god incapable of creating sinless beings? Is sin more powerful than god? Because it seems like shoddy craftsmanship to create something with a fatal flaw.
Lucifer had the audacity to talk back and have a different idea than his father, so he was kicked out… Forever.
Kicking out family for not doing what you personally want, then being angry that a bunch of the rest of the family decides to start ignoring you as they also do their own thing. One of the most narcissistic things you could do.
That’s one of the most Christian things I’ve ever seen. There’s no hate like Christian “love”.
But it’s all fake stories anyway so it doesn’t really matter. Even if it did… The Bible doesn’t mention Lucifer being cast out at all… The Isaiah 14 passages usually referenced for that actually reference the King of Babylon.
The story of Lucifer Morningstar being cast out of heaven actually comes from the epic poem Paradise Lost, written in 1667 by John Milton.
So if you believe that story then you would have to consider John Milton in 1667 to be equivalent to the various Councils of Nicaea deciding on what would be included in the Bible.
knowledge ≠ rationalness and it wasnt PHYSICAL death, it was spiritual death.
God created satan as an angel of light, but he was corrupted by sin, especially the sin of pride
You didn’t answer the question. How can you reason without knowledge? How could adam and eve have rational souls before eating from the tree that gave them knowledge and before truly understanding the consequences?
But god knew this was going to happen, right? Is god incapable of creating sinless beings? Is sin more powerful than god? Because it seems like shoddy craftsmanship to create something with a fatal flaw.
Lucifer had the audacity to talk back and have a different idea than his father, so he was kicked out… Forever.
Kicking out family for not doing what you personally want, then being angry that a bunch of the rest of the family decides to start ignoring you as they also do their own thing. One of the most narcissistic things you could do.
That’s one of the most Christian things I’ve ever seen. There’s no hate like Christian “love”.
But it’s all fake stories anyway so it doesn’t really matter. Even if it did… The Bible doesn’t mention Lucifer being cast out at all… The Isaiah 14 passages usually referenced for that actually reference the King of Babylon.
The story of Lucifer Morningstar being cast out of heaven actually comes from the epic poem Paradise Lost, written in 1667 by John Milton.
So if you believe that story then you would have to consider John Milton in 1667 to be equivalent to the various Councils of Nicaea deciding on what would be included in the Bible.
Satan had the audacity to try to stab his father and steal the kingdom of Heaven, got cast down to the abyss
Revelation 12:7-9