Tankie is a pejorative for those who defend socialist states. The “authoritarian” part doesn’t really make any sense, considering the Marxist analysis of authority is that what matters most is which class has the authority of the state.
Either way, the ethnic cleansing of the Donbass region was widely reported even by western organizations until 2022, then this was all wiped away and minimized.
Tankie is a pejorative for those who defend socialist states.
Never heard it used against democratic socialists who acknowledged mistakes of the past.
The “authoritarian” part doesn’t really make any sense, considering the Marxist analysis of authority is that what matters most is which class has the authority of the state.
So you believe there were no authoritarian socialist states in history? Ones that silenced critics, shot protesters, censored press and didn’t have competitive elections? Lol.
Either way, the ethnic cleansing of the Donbass region was widely reported even by western organizations until 2022, then this was all wiped away and minimized.
This war killed almost half a million people already on all sides combined (if we believe Russian MoD, this number way exceeds a million). Do you think the “ethnic cleansing” would kill this much in a thousand years? According to DPR-operated media, only 17 people died in last years before 2022 on Donbas, most from uncleaned minefields.
As I said, tankie is a pejorative used against people that defend socialist states. Self-described “democratic socialists” are not socialists that have “learned from history,” they are those who have removed themselves from it. Socialism, both in theory and historically, is fundamentally democratic. Demsocs are, in practice, those who claim to support socialism while accepting bourgeois historiography, whining and weeping for the oppressed fascists, landlords, and capitalists that wind up at the short end of existing socialism.
As for the idea of there being no authoritarian socialist states, I mean quite the opposite. There has never been a “non-authoritarian state” in general, as the state itself is a monopoly on violence in the hands of a given class. All slave, feudal, capitalist, and socialist states have been authoritarian, but each serves wildly different classes, the socialist state representing working class authority. That’s why the question isn’t “is this state authoritarian or not” and instead is “which class controls this state?”
As for the bit on the Donbass, 14,000 people were killed by Kiev, many civilians. Do these civilians not have a right to their own self-determination, to secede from a neofascist state?
Tankie is a pejorative for those who defend socialist states. The “authoritarian” part doesn’t really make any sense, considering the Marxist analysis of authority is that what matters most is which class has the authority of the state.
Either way, the ethnic cleansing of the Donbass region was widely reported even by western organizations until 2022, then this was all wiped away and minimized.
Never heard it used against democratic socialists who acknowledged mistakes of the past.
So you believe there were no authoritarian socialist states in history? Ones that silenced critics, shot protesters, censored press and didn’t have competitive elections? Lol.
This war killed almost half a million people already on all sides combined (if we believe Russian MoD, this number way exceeds a million). Do you think the “ethnic cleansing” would kill this much in a thousand years? According to DPR-operated media, only 17 people died in last years before 2022 on Donbas, most from uncleaned minefields.
As I said, tankie is a pejorative used against people that defend socialist states. Self-described “democratic socialists” are not socialists that have “learned from history,” they are those who have removed themselves from it. Socialism, both in theory and historically, is fundamentally democratic. Demsocs are, in practice, those who claim to support socialism while accepting bourgeois historiography, whining and weeping for the oppressed fascists, landlords, and capitalists that wind up at the short end of existing socialism.
As for the idea of there being no authoritarian socialist states, I mean quite the opposite. There has never been a “non-authoritarian state” in general, as the state itself is a monopoly on violence in the hands of a given class. All slave, feudal, capitalist, and socialist states have been authoritarian, but each serves wildly different classes, the socialist state representing working class authority. That’s why the question isn’t “is this state authoritarian or not” and instead is “which class controls this state?”
As for the bit on the Donbass, 14,000 people were killed by Kiev, many civilians. Do these civilians not have a right to their own self-determination, to secede from a neofascist state?