If all things were the same, but it was men who fell pregnant and gave birth, abortion clinics would be so standard they’d be on every corner, like McDonald’s. In fact, it’d be a sign of status to go to one.

Male 1: “I’m just off to the abortion clinic real quick.”

Male 2: “Oh nice, King. You’ve been busy.”

Male 1 leaves.

Male 3: “He’s so cool.”

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    In year 2000 poll, percentage of pro-choice people was 49% among both men and women. In 2006 it was 51% for both. Since 1995 and until 2020, the difference never exceeded 8%, peaking at 20% in 2025 correlating with political polarisation, with year 2010 men responding more pro-choice than women respondents by 5% (47% vs. 42%)‡.

    Partisan divide was always more influential than the gender one, with pro-choice stance being 47% less popular among republican women than among democratic women; 42% gap for R/D men in 2020–2021 poll‡. If cisgender men could give birth, it wouldn’t have more influence on their abortion stance than overall political beliefs.

    ‡ Gender Gaps on Abortion Reach Historic Highs | Gallup, June 2025

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    If males gave birth then it would be females that competed for access to us and became physically stronger than males. The only thing that would change is the name of the physically and politically powerful gender.

    It wouldn’t make society better. Hyenas have bigger stronger dominant females and they have no utopia. Seahorse males give birth, they are the more maternal, females cheat on them.

    Only fundamental difference between male and female is size and motility of sex cells. Only reason animals like us vary in size and strength is due to difference in offspring investment strategies.

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      if both sexes were hermaphroditic, then there would be less conflict as in other animals whom posesses both sexes gonads.

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    If all things were the same, but it was men who fell pregnant and gave birth, well then all things but the one would be the same. Because it clearly says that all things, besides the one, would be the same.

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    Is it a hostility to some essential concept of women, or a way to devalue reproduction caring and domestic labor? Which force is stronger, more original?

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      Sexism is the strongest of all oppression. It is the most common, widespread, and ignored of all oppression and causes a huge amount of human suffering.

      When women are dehumanized it usually relies on the prejudices that have been developed and reinforced through culture. So I think the essential concept is the driving force.

      The devaluing of domestic labor is a side effect of a class of people without rights viewed as property.

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    If all things were the same, but it was men who fell pregnant and gave birth, all things would be different.

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      That wasn’t my point. My point was that the world is run by men. Policymakers and politicians are, in general, men. And since abortion is about giving women freedom over their bodies and life decisions, (most) men don’t allow that. Therefore there’s a very unfair disconnect. My point was that if men were the target of anti-abortion policies, then such policies would by and large not exist.

      ETA: As another commenter pointed out, perhaps statistically most men are pro-choice, but unfortunately in general the backwards few who go into and succeed in politics are the ones who make the call.