EDIT: Correction, I was banned from Lemmy Zip, the confusion stems from my inability to see Lemmy Zip communities in the search anymore leading me to think it was Lemmy ML which has a community of the same name.
EDIT: Correction, I was banned from Lemmy Zip, the confusion stems from my inability to see Lemmy Zip communities in the search anymore leading me to think it was Lemmy ML which has a community of the same name.
Honestly, it’s fair that they would ban you from their spaces for simping for US imperialism this hard. In the anarchist collectives I frequent we would do the same.
Of those three quotes, only the last is simping for American imperialism unless I’m missing something, or we’re accepting criticism of Russia and China or acknowledgement of the attempt of ‘superpowers’ to use other countries as proxies as simping for American imperialism.
Though the second quote, unrelated to the broader point, seems confused about who Egypt aligns with.
EDIT: Related to the other comment chain, a warm welcome to Ensign_Crab, our local tankie who has paid us a visit to simp for Stalin and the PRC
They’re all the same comment, it’s Markup that adds breaks between paragraphs when quoting.
The second paragraph implies the US is justified in attacking Iran and Venezuela because China is “pulling strings”, which is imperialistic. Even with delivering weapons to Gaza, Egypt, and Lebanon, this exists in the context of the US seeking to cripple the middle east’s ability to defend against colonial genocide by Israel because Israel is a forward base of US empire.
“Figthing an empire is imperialist” is quite the take on all of this.
I don’t think attacking Iran or Venezuela were justified because the attacks were not sanctioned or planned by US Congress nor were they carried out by USA and Allies combined forces. Instead, both operations were a fucking embarrassment caused by the Orange asshole, as will the Cuban operations if they continue to instigate the stupid animal at the zoo.
Yeah, remember when the British Empire and French Empire were both non-imperialisticically colonizing Africa because both were fighting the other empire for control over the continent? You can tell because when they were gunning unarmed people down with machine guns they said they were afraid those people would be sympathetic to the other empire, which meant they were fighting the other empire.
When two empires fight using imperial domains as pawns, both are imperialistic, not neither. The US is using Israel as an imperial forward base and Iran is using Hamas as imperial auxiliaries. The US is claiming Cuba and Venezuela as imperial sphere of influence (Monroe Doctrine) and China is supplying them as imperial forward bases.
That is not to say one empire can’t be less wrong than the other in a specific conflict. The US is less bad than China in Taiwan and China is less bad than the US in Cuba. Worming your way out from under an empire often means strategically allying with another empire, and for my corner of the world I’m glad US hegemony is collapsing; Maybe the planet won’t become uninhabitable after all.
There is never, ever, any circumstance where China is less bad than the USA. They’re the top of the totem pole for greed and violence, China is an existential threat to humanity. The worst parts of the USA would be Trump and the GOP, which China endorsed and promoted with psyops such as TikTok to empower.
Thank you for being so transparent about this.
Right now, Egypt is full of internal struggles, including groups which are supplied weapons by Iran. The state of Egypt is allied with the west and is actively participating against Iran. Likewise, I don’t associate Palestine with the militant Hamas. The closest thing to one of my examples being part of the state would be the politically fractured Lebanon, but the ones receiving direct militant support from the eastern bloc only manage a small part of it.
As for the “simping” allegation, can you come up with another solution with zero bloodshed? Can you think of an outcome with bloodshed that is genuinely better for it? Because I can’t. Best bet for Cubans is to weather out the storm that is the Trump admin. Become a part of the scenery.
Most people would say “to [countries]” meaning “to the government of [countries]” rather than “to the region”, especially since the context is explicitly the governments of China and Iran supplying others.
Not saying you’re incorrect (though Egypt is not particularly filled with armed internal struggles last I checked), but that the wording definitely has implications that are easily read a different way than you meant.
Weathering the storm is different from working towards good relations with the US. Cuba has extended numerous olive branches, and at some point, we have to accept that it’s not Cuba which needs to change course with regards to US-Cuban relations.
The issue of their domestic governance problems is… separate.
Honestly it would be nice if things were that simple, if the eastern bloc were only funneling weapons into their allies, but nope they’re shipping guns and bombs into every nation they can in an attempt to install autocratic loyalists across the Middle East, Asia, South America, and I expect Africa soon.
That’s the real problem is they’re already waging war on the west.
And there have been high points and low points in the US-Cuban relationship which has recently worsened as USA tightened the Embargo under the 2nd Trump admin and now the Cubans are literally in the news article that comment is under cheering for literal War with the USA as the Castro family declares they are ready and willing to fight.
And all I’m saying is:
They don’t need to have a war. They don’t need to be fighting for the Chinese, for the Russians, the fucking Iranians for goodness sake. Cuba could just give trump a proverbial handy by agreeing not to militarize and help USA secure the surrounding waters, trade would return, and wait for the demented old fuck to fall asleep and forget about them. In a couple of years it would all return to as if nothing had happened.
… I’m talking about your wording.
Do you think Trump would accept that? Do you think Trump would limit himself to that? Especially with the Iran War looking less-than-successful? Do you think Trump, the knuckle-dragging fascist cocksucker, would take that as anything but a sign of weakness on the part of Cuba?
Appeasement is rightly condemned as a fool’s errand when Russia is concerned; don’t fall for the campist trap of applying double-standards to international politics based on whose team colors the current autocrat is wearing.
Trump put Maduro on trial, got gifted a second hand peace prize, and promptly forgot Venezuela existed. He’s not a complicated man.
Obviously the situations on both fronts are more nuanced than that, with Venezuelan VP being open to negotiation with US oil executives who have been operating in the region for a long time, but the important part is that not only can things not worsen for the Cubans by trading one world power’s protection for another but US citizens will not stand for a permanent occupation of Cuba, and if the GOP tries to hold power past their terms then it will be all of our problems together.
Russia wants to expand borders. The USA does not, it’s just a sick partisan fantasy of the red ties.
The year isn’t even over yet, much less Trump’s term.
Yes, please remember that Maduro’s kidnapping, the kidnapping of a sovereign head of fucking state, happened earlier this year.
Whose protection are they trading for? They’ve been aligned with China since the 90s and Russia since Putin’s first election.
Abandoning their meagre current alliances for the prospect of throwing themselves at the mercy of an American political machine which has no concept of negotiation at present seems immensely unwise.
That’s not much comfort to the thousands of Cubans who will die in the process.
I don’t think “It’s okay, because it’ll either improve if Americans do the right thing (after doing the wrong thing 2/3 times in the past fucking decade), or else Americans will ALSO be screwed” is all that compelling an argument to Cuba. Or, for that matter, to Americans.
Handing Trump a ‘win’ on Cuba would be a great way to strengthen his hold on low-information centrists - of which there are too many in this fucking country - and strengthen the Cuban exile community in Florida whose death-grip on American politics have royally fucked us four times and counting in my fucking lifetime alone.
Hey @PugJesus. Can we also add a rule that also simping for Trump is not allowed? FiniteBanjo’s arguments sound awfully like Trump simping.
Well the USA has issued a warrant for Raul Castro so unless they want that flavor of violence they should be trying to deescalate.
I strongly believe that a voluntary deescelation of Cuba, with some public flattery and a couple small gifts, would resolve the situation with zero casualties. I think Trump is just that much of a fucking moron.
Right and wrong are one thing, but at some point you have to minimize harm. There is no need for war and mass death in Cuba, so we should be doing everything in our power to avoid it.
No need to obscure it bro, heres a LINK to the full context.
Given the timing, though, much more likely is me derailing their anti-western and pronatalist propaganda in the Science Memes community LINK TO THAT.
EDIT: fixed link