Compared to alternatives on the market, there is no high upfront investment - you can start saving money and CO₂ from day one. When ordering the system, you pay a refundable deposit. Monthly, you pay a fixed fee, which will be reduced by the revenues from energy trading. It is estimated, that you can save between 10 to 50 percent of your current energy costs with Photoncycle subscription.
Yeah, subscription model innovation, just what I need. The “technology” also looks sketchy to me, some vague talk about solar power, hydrogen generation by electrolysis and underground storage.
Looks like a savage idea. Unfortunately it’s also subscription based.
Monthly, you pay a fixed fee, which will be reduced by the revenues from energy trading. It is estimated, that you can save between 10 to 50 percent of your current energy costs with Photoncycle subscription.
I totally agree. Hopefully the approach works and isn’t locked by some horrible patents so that other companies are prevented from actually selling it.
Monthly base fee starts at 300€, which will be reduced by […] which can amount to up to 150€
Yeah if it was more than the 10 MWh they’ve mentioned on their website, perhaps it would be good enough for my house. But I think I reached over 2000 kWh of electricity consumption a month this winter thanks to my heat pump and possibly more than that in briquettes that I use for my central heating furnace. The 10,000 kWh they talk about is sadly not enough for my soviet-era built house, nor is my roof big enough for a meaningful amount of solar (it’s complicated… big house, small roof, not all of the roof useable for solar). If I’d have to get 2 or 3 units and they end up costing me significantly more than the 300€ a month? No thanks. My highest electricity bill in the winter was about 330€ and yes, I also burned about 500€ worth of wood briquettes that month, but in the summer I pay less than 100€ and this was a freakishly cold winter, so normally it wouldn’t cost as much (and I’m also now older and wiser and will keep a bigger stockpile because the prices do go up in the winter, something I’ve experienced before).
In the medium term, I’m hopeful for technology like this:
https://www.photoncycle.com/
That’s mostly interesting for flat places that can’t use pumped hydro to store energy, like the Netherlands or Denmark…
Netherlands nd Denmark can use hydro-storage in Norway.
They don’t have a closed national grid.
Yeah, subscription model innovation, just what I need. The “technology” also looks sketchy to me, some vague talk about solar power, hydrogen generation by electrolysis and underground storage.
Looks like a savage idea. Unfortunately it’s also subscription based.
I totally agree. Hopefully the approach works and isn’t locked by some horrible patents so that other companies are prevented from actually selling it.
Yeah if it was more than the 10 MWh they’ve mentioned on their website, perhaps it would be good enough for my house. But I think I reached over 2000 kWh of electricity consumption a month this winter thanks to my heat pump and possibly more than that in briquettes that I use for my central heating furnace. The 10,000 kWh they talk about is sadly not enough for my soviet-era built house, nor is my roof big enough for a meaningful amount of solar (it’s complicated… big house, small roof, not all of the roof useable for solar). If I’d have to get 2 or 3 units and they end up costing me significantly more than the 300€ a month? No thanks. My highest electricity bill in the winter was about 330€ and yes, I also burned about 500€ worth of wood briquettes that month, but in the summer I pay less than 100€ and this was a freakishly cold winter, so normally it wouldn’t cost as much (and I’m also now older and wiser and will keep a bigger stockpile because the prices do go up in the winter, something I’ve experienced before).